Re: draft-bonica-tunneltrace-02

[Randy Bush <randy@research.att.com>]

> why is it that "seeing the requirements, concise, sustainable
> and justifiable" is something you need to do before the doc
> becomes a wg doc, not as an outcome of a wg discussion. it seems
> like you are putting constraints on becoming a wg doc, almost
> as if it were a wg last call

i keep trying to understand this too.  i suspect it is one of
  o does not understand ietf/wg process
  o really hates the idea so wants to block

if the former, then we should just be patient, we were all new once.

if the latter, then the issue seems to divide

  o are there substantive issues with the problem(s) the draft is
    attempting to address such that they are outside of the problem
    set of the wg charter?  (i have seen no one make this case)

  o are the technical problems with the draft that need to be addressed?
    probably so, as with almost all drafts.  that's why we take them up
    as wg items, so the wg can discuss and fix them.

randy