Re: Summary of LMP implementation/deployment reports

[Carmine Daloia <daloia@lucent.com>]

Why is the procedure described in the lmp-bootstrap draft not included 
in the lmp-draft?  Doesn't sound like lmp is complete without this 
capability and therefore doesn't seem to make sense to have these in 
separate drafts.

Carmine

Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be wrote:

> Carmine,
>
> this is why i have previously mentioned in my response
> that "a proposal has been made to bootstrap out-of-band 
> control channels and discover the interface_id mappings 
> (or associations) before establishing a control channel"
>
> see:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lang-ccamp-lmp-bootstrap-00.txt
>
> thus the problem you've indicated in the below message is
> also addressed - 
> so
> " So LMP can *build* the mappings (i.e., reduce
>  
> > operator provisioning) if the operator has previously provisioned the
> > remote node addresses for each and every data link. "
> >    
> may be now rephrased as
> " LMP can *build* the mappings (i.e., reduce operator provisioning) 
>  
> > without any provisioning of the remote node addresses for each 
> > and every data link"
> >    
> thanks,
> - dimitri.
>
> Carmine Daloia wrote:
>  
> > Kireeti, Dimitri,
> >
> > I realize that Section 5 in draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-05.txt states that the
> > Link Connectivity Verification procedure (which is optional) may be used
> > to dynamically learn the id associations.  Is this what you mean by LMP
> > being able to *build* the mappings?  However this requires that an
> > operator *PROVISION* for each and every data link the remote node
> > address that the data link is terminated on.  Only with this
> > provisioning will the local node know the address to send the
> > BeginVerify message to.   So LMP can *build* the mappings (i.e., reduce
> > operator provisioning) if the operator has previously provisioned the
> > remote node addresses for each and every data link.  Doesn't seem like a
> > useful capability.
> >
> > Carmine
> >
> > Kireeti Kompella wrote:
> >
> >    
> > > Hi Carmine,
> > >
> > > On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Carmine Daloia wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > > > So basically LMP is used to verify that the datalink id mappings stored
> > > > in the neighboring nodes match eachother.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > Actually, LMP is used to *build* the mappings, not verify them.  If the
> > > mappings were already stored, LMP could be used to verify them -- but
> > > that is a secondary function.
> > >
> > > Kireeti (as a WG participant).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      
>