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RE: I-D ACTION:draft-andersson-mpls-g-chng-proc-00.txt



Title: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-andersson-mpls-g-chng-proc-00.txt

Loa, Kireeti,

I agree with Malcolm.

Since this draft proposes a process change specifically dealing with requirements and problem statements, and since ITU uses the liaison process for this reason, the liaison process is very relevant to the changes proposed in this draft, and it is not an orthogonal problem.

 

 

Monica A. Lazer

Network Architecture and Reliability

 

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mlazer@att.com

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm Betts [mailto:betts01@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:11 AM
To: 'Loa Andersson'
Cc: Stephen Trowbridge; Kireeti Kompella; ccamp@ops.ietf.org; mpls@UU.NET
Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-andersson-mpls-g-chng-proc-00.txt

 

Loa, the from the outside looking in the liaison process and the change process are closely coupled.  The liaison process is described in ITU-T Recommendation A.4 and A.5 and in RFC 3356. 

The coupling occurs because the ITU uses the agreed liaison process to communicate requests to modify IETF protocols based on requirements agreed by the members of the Study Group (that originated the liaison).  The change process being proposed requires that this official request from a SDO is converted into an individuals ID.  The level of agreement in the SDO is therefore obscured, this process appears to be in conflict with RFC 3356.  The problem is particularly acute when the requirements are to enable (or enhance) the management of a non IP network to support a non IP client.  If my understanding of the draft is correct such requests would be rejected by the IETF.

It is clearly beneficial to the industry if the basic IETF protocols can be extended to address such applications.  The IETF plays a key role in ensuring that the integrity of the base protocols is not compromised.

Malcolm Betts

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-----Original Message-----
From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.se]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:33 AM
To: Kireeti Kompella
Cc: Stephen Trowbridge; ccamp@ops.ietf.org; mpls@UU.NET
Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-andersson-mpls-g-chng-proc-00.txt
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I think I've clearly pointed out the limited scope of the change process, recognized that there is a orthogonal problem on how we treats liasions coming into the ietf, that the liasion process needs to be documented, and that we will add text to address the limited intersection of the change-process and liasion process in order to promote the cooperation with other SDOs.

/Loa

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