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Re: draft-kawakami-mpls-lsp-vlan-00.txt



hi,

per gmpls, Layer-2 Switch Capable (L2SC) interfaces are
defined:

   Interfaces that recognize frame/cell boundaries and can forward data
   based on the content of the frame/cell header. Examples include
   interfaces on Ethernet bridges that forward data based on the
   content of the MAC header and interfaces on ATM-LSRs that forward
   data based on the ATM VPI/VCI.

i agree with juergen, this i-d should be discussed at
the ccamp working group

thanks,
- dimitri.

Genadi Velev wrote:
> 
> Hi Juergen,
> 
> thanks for the feedback! This was (and seems to be still) a hot topic. The
> decision where to present the draft has been already a subject of
> discussions with the chairmen of MPLS, PWE3 and PPVPN WGs. The reason to let
> this draft for submission in the MPLS WG was that the basic intention is to
> propose a new LDP extension ("VLAN label TLV") and MPLS WG is in charge of
> the LDP protocol.
> 
> It's true that the transport plane in our proposal is based on VLAN-aware
> Ethernet switches. Compared to the GMPLS classification of interfaces
> (RFC3471), VLAN tag switching belongs (I'd say so) to the Packet-Switch
> Capable (PSC) interfaces, and thus, extensions regarding these interfaces
> should be a subject of the MPLS WG.
> 
> This is my personal opinion. However, since I'm not a long-experienced
> person in the IETF's MPLS related work, I'd like to hear also another
> opinions on this issue.
> 
> regards,
> Genadi
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-mpls@UU.NET [mailto:owner-mpls@UU.NET]On Behalf Of Heiles
> > Juergen
> > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:17 PM
> > To: 'velev@panasonic.de'; mpls@UU.NET; ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> > Cc: vlan-mpls@panasonic.de
> > Subject: AW: draft-kawakami-mpls-lsp-vlan-00.txt
> >
> >
> > Genadi,
> >
> > the draft proposes to use the MPLS control plane protocols for a
> > different transport plane (Ethernet VLAN).
> > This is excatly what GMPLS is about. So I think it would be
> > better to have the ID and dicussion in ccamp under the GMPLS work.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Genadi Velev [mailto:velev@panasonic.de]
> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2003 17:53
> > > An: mpls@UU.NET
> > > Cc: vlan-mpls@panasonic.de
> > > Betreff: draft-kawakami-mpls-lsp-vlan-00.txt
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > A new draft was published today (please see below).
> > >
> > > Any feedback and comments are welcome, especially from those
> > > of you who are
> > > dealing with packet transport over wide area Ethernet networks.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Genadi
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-mpls@UU.NET [mailto:owner-mpls@UU.NET]On Behalf Of
> > > > Internet-Drafts@ietf.org
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:44 PM
> > > > To: IETF-Announce:
> > > > Cc: mpls@UU.NET
> > > > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-kawakami-mpls-lsp-vlan-00.txt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> > > > Internet-Drafts directories.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Title           : Method to Setup LSP using VLAN Tag Switching
> > > >   Author(s)       : T. Kawakami et al.
> > > >   Filename        : draft-kawakami-mpls-lsp-vlan-00.txt
> > > >   Pages           : 15
> > > >   Date            : 2003-2-26
> > > >
> > > > This document describes a method to setup a Layer 2 tunnel over
> > > > networks based on Ethernet technology. For this purpose,
> > > the ports of
> > > > an Ethernet switch are configured to forward VLAN
> > > tag-labeled packets
> > > > incoming from a certain port to another unambiguous port by using
> > > > VLAN tag information. The Ethernet switches themselves are a part of
> > > > the Label Switching Routers (LSRs), which distribute the VLAN tags
> > > > using Label Distribution Protocol (LDP). To enable LDP to
> > > fulfil this
> > > > function, an LDP extension is proposed. The introduced method
> > > > simplifies the transport of Ethernet frames over wide area Ethernet
> > > > networks.
> > > >
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