RE: ASON reqts

[John Drake <jdrake@calient.net>]

Bert,

Also, I don't know if you noticed but Deborah Brungard, who was a major
contributor to G.8080 (ASON), helped us out with the RSVP extensions I-D
(http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dimitri-ccamp-gmpls-rsvp-te-ason-
00.txt).

So we really are trying to make the ITU/IETF working relationship better.

Thanks,

John 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Drake 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:09 AM
> To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'
> Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: ASON reqts
> 
> 
> Bert,
> 
> We're discussing submitting the two drafts 
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-papadimitriou-ccamp
> -gmpls-ason-reqts-00.txt, 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dimitri-ccamp-gmpls-
> rsvp-te-ason-00.txt) as contributions to the ITU meeting in 
> Chicago next month.
> 
> The intention is to work closely with T1X1 and ITU in order 
> to get them a satisfactory GMPLS solution, but we still need 
> to follow the IETF process for work done in the IETF.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 8:56 AM
> > To: John Drake
> > Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: ASON reqts
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-andersson-mpls-g-chn
> > g-proc-00.txt.
> > > (It's the one you co-authored.)
> > > 
> > Aha... OK, that doc still needs approval.
> > We have sort of agreed that we would test-run a document from MPLS
> > WG through the process to see how/if it works.
> > 
> > But more to the point, that document is on how we control 
> work brought
> > to the IETF. It does not control how we interact as decent 
> > human beings
> > and decent organisations with our counterparts.
> > 
> > The ASON specs (including how to do GMPLS for ASON) were done 
> > by ITU-T.
> > So we cannot just assume that we need to take over. I do not believe
> > that tha above change-control-procedures are intended to specify
> > how we take away or steal or whatever-term-you-want-use work from
> > other organisations.
> > 
> > That is why I suggested the decent communication path in my earlier
> > posting.
> > 
> > Bert
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 8:11 AM
> > > > To: John Drake
> > > > Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> > > > Subject: RE: ASON reqts
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bert,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I thought that we had a process - the post RFC3474 process.  
> > > > 
> > > > I guess I must have missed that. 
> > > > Where is that or what are you referring to?
> > > > 
> > > > I also know that some of you do not believe we did send the ASON
> > > > people away... but for me that it what it boiled down to.
> > > > YMMV
> > > > 
> > > > Bert
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
>