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RE: Control plane resiliency



Igor,

Please, enough already.

Thanks,

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Igor Bryskin [mailto:ibryskin@movaz.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:32 AM
> To: Adrian Farrel; George Swallow
> Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org; swallow@cisco.com
> Subject: Re: Control plane resiliency
> 
> George,
> 
> 
> 
> Although I do agree that mechanisms to control IP and non-IP networks
> should
> not fundamentally deviate, we still need to bear in mind that there
are
> things that work well for IP networks and not so well or sufficiently
well
> for non-IP networks and visa versa. For example, the control and data
> planes
> are congruent in IP and, generally speaking, not-congruent in
transport
> networks, which brings additional challenges  wrt
resiliency/robustness of
> the control plane that we have never met in the past.
> 
> 
> 
> I recommend to read the paper Diego mentioned in his email, where the
> authors described quite accurately some of the problems that I have
> referred
> to in the thread.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards and see you on IETF64.
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Swallow" <swallow@cisco.com>
> To: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
> Cc: <ccamp@ops.ietf.org>; <swallow@cisco.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Control plane resiliency
> 
> 
> > Adrian -
> >
> > Excellent note.  In reading through the thread I was beginning to
fear
> > that having chosen IP as a means of providing a resilient control
plane,
> > we might totally complicate things and fundamentally deviate from IP
at
> > this late date.
> >
> > I believe the exercise of working through requirements, showing how
> > existing mechanism can and SHOULD be used to address these, and in
the
> > process point out any omissions would be a very useful piece of
work.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ///George
> >
> >
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