RE: Accounting in peered CDNs: Initial thoughts ....

["Hilarie Orman" <HORMAN@novell.com>]

I'd not mix the concept of information about traffic requirements with
information about the *user*.  And this is probably not a good
forum to discuss giving the user's name to traffic interception
devices.  If networks have been able to get my packets delivered
for the last 30 years without knowing my name, I fail to see why
they need it in the future.

However, I can see this being used for user-centric services
based at proxies, and invite discussion of this on the
ietf-openproxy@imc.org mailing list.

Hilarie

>>> "Reinaldo Penno" <rpenno@nortelnetworks.com> 01/17/01 08:55PM >>>
Hi,

I was thiking about this problem (stats for demographics) some time ago and
have been working on a Used Profile Protocol. The abstract goes like
this...(I'm not sending the whole text because do not want bother the
members on this list if this is not the right forum)

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Network Working Group                                           R. Penno
Internet-Draft
NortelNetworks
Expires: June, 2001                                         December, 2000



                      User Profile Information Protocol
                    draft-penno-cdnp-nacct-userid-00.txt

   We present here a protocol in which edge network devices, which can be
   further be subdivided in  IP Services Boxes, Broadband RASes, Edge
Routers
   and so forth, can inform surrogates or traffic interception devices
extended information
   about the user, such as geographic location, QoS policy, login (
   name@domain.name), and start and stop times for the session.

   This would not only allow better statistics and billing but also provide
a way to
   to surrogate servers and traffic interception devices to treat
subscribers differently,
   based on this extended information

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would this working group be the right forum for this protocol?

thanks,

you# -----Original Message-----
you# From: owner-cdn@ops.ietf.org 
you# [mailto:owner-cdn@ops.ietf.org]On Behalf Of
you# Oliver Spatscheck
you# Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:00 PM
you# To: Abhi Deshmukh
you# Cc: cdn@ops.ietf.org 
you# Subject: Accounting in peered CDNs: Initial thoughts ....
you#
you#
you#
you# Abhi,
you#
you#  great summary. One thing we always hear from content
you# provider is the
you# request of stats for demographics (at least location if possible
you# more). If we therefore, envision a world in which the
you# entire content of
you# a site would be delivered using CDN peering being able to aggregate
you# client demographics would be one requirement. However, I recognize
you# the complexity of that problem and I am not sure if we
you# want to address
you# it in the first version.
you#
you# Oliver
you#