RE: Proposed charter, please comment

[DonE@activate.net]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maciocco, Christian [mailto:christian.maciocco@intel.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:15 PM
> To: 'Kobus van der Merwe'; tme@21rst-century.com
> Cc: John Martin; Abbie Barbir; Mark Day; cdn
> Subject: RE: Proposed charter, please comment
> 
> 
> Streaming kind of implies multicast distribution.

Not at all.  A common model is a single live stream from a content provider
(or a CDN)
to another CDN, which may or may not multicast that stream.
 
> Will multicast support be required only for streams 
> distribution or for
> other parts of CDNP, e.g. re-direction, accounting?

Yes, I'd hope so.

Don

> Christian
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kobus van der Merwe [mailto:kobus@research.att.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:41 AM
> > To: tme@21rst-century.com
> > Cc: John Martin; Abbie Barbir; Mark Day; cdn
> > Subject: Re: Proposed charter, please comment
> > 
> > 
> > Like John I have always thought of RTSP as not part of 
> "Web-based" but
> > have recently learned that some people consider Web-based to also
> > cover streaming protocols (i.e. RTSP and possibly MMS). 
> > For my money that is fine but I would like to see streaming 
> explicitly
> > included in the charter.
> > 
> > Kobus
> > Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> > > 
> > > John Martin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Noone is saying that we should be psychic about new 
> > protocols. I'm talking
> > > > about the apparent *restriction* to "Web-based" protocols.
> > > >
> > > > RTSP is certainly "existing" but, by my definition, it is 
> > certainly not
> > > > "Web-based". To me "Web-based" == HTTP.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > 
> > > RTSP has a very html like interface, and is designed to be 
> > used from browsers. FWIW, I would consider it
> > > web based.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 01:02 PM 26/01/01 -0500, Abbie Barbir wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I do agree with mark here, I think we should try to ride 
> > on existing
> > > > >protocols.
> > > > >
> > > > >Regarding the charter, it looks fine to me
> > > > >
> > > > >Abbie Barbir
> > > > >Nortel Networks
> > > > >
> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > >From:   Mark Day 
> [<mailto:markday@cisco.com>mailto:markday@cisco.com]
> > > >Sent:   Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:45 AM
> > > >To:     John Martin; cdn
> > > >Subject:        RE: Proposed charter, please comment
> > > >
> > > > > >A content network is an architecture of Web-based network
> > > > > >elements, arranged
> > > > > >for efficient delivery of digital content.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why Web-based? Does that exclude non-HTTP objects? 
> Actually, if you
> just
> > > > > remove the phrase "Web-based", this reads just fine (to me).
> > > >
> > > >While technically correct, I worry that this moves us in 
> the wrong
> direction
> > > >(increasing generality).  I consider it quite important that the
> working
> > > >group focus on the problems of delivering content within 
> the frameworks
> of
> > > >DNS, HTTP, RTSP, etc. as they exist now.
> > > >
> > > >For example, I think it would be a tremendous waste of 
> time to use this
> > > >group to develop a system for interoperation of content 
> networks that
> > > >required replacing the existing protocol infrastructure 
> of the web.
> That
> > > >could well be a worthy and fun project, but it would be 
> a research
> project
> > > >as opposed to a standards project.
> > > >
> > > >Now, I'm pretty sure that you're not trying to get us to 
> do that, but I
> want
> > > >to be sure that the charter rules it out.  I would be 
> happy with more
> > > >careful phrasing, and perhaps we need to catalog the 
> things that we
> will not
> > > >do instead of relying on the fuzzy phrase "Web-based." 
> But I am wary of
> > > >broadening the scope to any arrangement of network elements that
> delivers
> > > >content efficiently.
> > > >
> > > >--Mark
> > > >
> > > >
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