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Re: draft-ietf-grip-isp-00.txt now available

==> From: Mike O'Dell

Thanks, less puzzled now. But...

> one reason i'm so vehement is because i have a responsibility
> to make sure that WG activities don't run afoul of anti-trust
> restrictions

Not understandable by non-USA citizens like myself. 
Not allowing IP packets coming from a customer but NOT from the IP 
ranges that that customer uses seems the most perfectly sensible 
thing in the world to do. 
 
> another is because i think it just a Bad Idea
> 
> and yet another is because it will get ignored, and making rules
> which you know will get ignored simply wastes whatever air of
> authority you happen to enjoy

Hmmm. This is dangerous thinking. Like this it becomes impossible to 
make serious recommendations (nobody says "must") out of fear that 
they may be ignored. You say "will", but how do you know? You know 
that UUNET wil ignore it, but... Rumour goes that several ISPs even 
use Paul Vixie's black-hole feed, which seems to me to press way 
beyond spoofing filtering and indeed be unacceptable - but they do 
it. What Tom wrote is very innocent stuff, compared to that...

I see tons of IETF recommendations (take the mail RFC's) which get 
ignored by tons of people every day. That doesn't make them less 
valid, on the contrary.

-don