Re: [idn] An experiment with UTF-8 domain names

["Martin J. Duerst" <duerst@w3.org>]

At 01/01/06 09:24 +0100, Patrik F$BgM(Btstr$B‹N(B wrote:
>At 19.49 +0000 01-01-05, owner-idn@ops.ietf.org wrote:
>>In fact if Boris starts the exchange and although it would look odd,
>>wouldn't Ivan be able to just hit `Reply' on his existing email client ?
>
>Even this is true.

Yes. But if Ivan writes back to Boris and asks why he is suddenly using
such a strange mail address, then Boris will be surprised, even
embarrassed, and will not know what happened and why.


>It is even the case that Boris can give his ACE-version of his real email 
>address to people in a form as "if you can not enter cyrillic characters 
>in my email address, please enter this instead".
>
>I.e. I could register one day maybe:
>
>   f$BgM(Btstr$B‹N(B.com
>
>...but could also on my buissness card have (if the ACE ends up being RACE):
>
>   bq--abtoi3duon2hf5tn .com

Sorry, but I very strongly doubt that this should be done, and that
very many people will want to embarrass themselves that way.


>Yes, it looks ugly, it explicitly is leakage which we all hate, but, 
>it  makes it possible for people with non-IDN software to access the 
>domain. Of course, I can in parallell have a domain which is 
>"faltstrom.com" or whatever,

Yes, that's what will happen. People want names, not garbage.
We all know that very well.


>but I might think that my customers if I help them that way never update 
>their software. I.e. I _WANT_ people to be able to use "f$BgM(Btstr$B‹N(B.com" 
>probably, so I would only help them to some degree, and that might be to 
>give them the ace encoding in paralel with the real name.

This sounds like a very secondary argument. If you want them to upgrade,
you will point them to your nice address and tell them what they have
to do to use it. Annoying your friends or business partners to get them
to upgrade is a really strange idea.


Regards,   Martin.