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Re: [idn] I don't want 8-bit failures in 2011
- To: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
- Subject: Re: [idn] I don't want 8-bit failures in 2011
- From: Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu>
- Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:11:01 -0500
- cc: idn@ops.ietf.org
- Delivery-date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:13:35 -0800
- Envelope-to: idn-data@psg.com
> > your conversation about 8bit SMTP is completely out of scope for this
> > list/wg.
>
> If we have UTF-8 IDNs, then they will be transmitted in mail messages,
> both in the header (e.g., From lines) and in the body (e.g., responses
> from automated mailing-list managers). Many clients send 8-bit text as
> is, labelled as 8-bit MIME or not at all. Many MTAs do just-send-8.
yes, some leakage will occur. and many UAs and MTAs will mung these in
such a way that it becomes impossible to reply to such messages.
> It is clearly within the scope of IDN to consider the interoperability
> issues here---as illustrated by the Sendmail entry in my list of
> upgrades necessary for UTF-8.
of course. after all, it's this very set of interoperability isssues
that makes ACE solutions so compelling.
> It is also sensible for us to review the
> Quoted-Printable disaster and evaluate its similarity to ACE.
I suspect you're confusing quoted-printable with RFC 2047 and its
predecessors.
but if one is going to "review" the experience from that decision,
(which I agree is relevant, and we've already done some of that)
then one also needs to compare it with the experience of just-send-8.
Keith