Re: [idn] An open letter to the IDN WG (long)

[Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU>]

% 
% At 12:53 PM 3/19/2001, Bill Manning wrote:
% >% >         To the extent that we can push a reduction on memnonoic value
% >% >         in lables, the sooner we will have a compelling case for
% >% >         directory service..
% >%
% >% When computer engineers make wishful assertions about our manipulating
% >% end-users toward some behavior goal, we usually discover why it is good
% >% that we specialized in working with machines and not people...
% >
% >         So... you are agreeing with me? :)
% 
% only if you know of a way to "push reduction on mnemonic value in labels" 
% that does not involve humans...
% 
% d/

	then I guess we disagree. :(	
	still, if we come up with a scheme, (like IPv6) that increases
	the lablesize (an alternate, on the wire encoding comes to mind)
	such that a direct (emacs) manipulation is highly undesirable,
	then I think we are on the path that leads to technology drivers
	to change humans behaviour/expectation/perceptions on what is 
	possible/doable.

	IPv4:	192.168.32.10
	I can remember this.

	IPv6:	3ffe:0805:0021:dd87:0224:8bba:feeb:daed
	This is harder to remember.

	ASCII lable: 	isi.edu
	I can remember this.

	UTF8 label:	06.60.35.55.fe.ff.a6.cc.24.24.91.33
	This is harder to remember.

	and a directory gives me the ability to search (sonex) to resolve
	abiguities.  Adding such capabilites to the DNS is non-trivial.

	To be clear, I think we need a directory service and we've needed
	it for some time.  We've already added lots of stuff that is forcing 
	the DNS into the relem of "no human serviceable parts inside" 
	(try to hand-configure SIG/KEY/NXT records for even a small zone). 
	At that point we might as well have a directory service as our
	"window" to the DNS internals.

	But I digress. I'll shut up now and let the group get back
	to IDN wg charter issues. If you want to rant on this topic
	please lets do it offline.


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--bill