Re: [idn] WALID, Inc. IP Statement

[Rick H Wesson <wessorh@ar.com>]

all: [especially Walid]

ok, I'm tired of this game!

I am starting to think that this idn thing is bad, and our current
solution (IDNA) is a broken attempt. I am starting to think we need
a new approach that not only is COMPLETELY unencumbered, but works in all
the cases we have discussed.

I am tired and disgusted with how some of the members of this group are
acting and I am seriously considering that we bring this group to a FULL
STOP, reevaluate, and decide if this work should continue.

anyone else with me?

-rick (an IDNA Design Team Member)





On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, James Seng/Personal wrote:

> Douglas,
>
> 1. It bothers me a lot that you keep sending our private email
>    to you to public. Not that we have anything to hide here
>    because all our correspondence with you have been discussed
>    with our advisors and ADs before sending to you *but* it is
>    a courtesy to ask for permission.
>
>    The standing (c) on email belongs by default to the author,
>    in this case, Marc Blanchet.
>
> 2. The telechat we request is to clearly the IETF process on IPR.
>    From the questions you posted, it is apparent you have some
>    misunderstanding on RFC 2026.
>
> 3. From this reply, I am not sure if this is a "Yes" or "No"
>    answer to the telechat request. Care to confirm it?
>
> -James Seng
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. Douglas Hawkins" <dhawkins@walid.com>
> To: "Marc Blanchet" <Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca>; <jseng@pobox.org.sg>
> Cc: <idn@ops.ietf.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:29 AM
> Subject: [idn] WALID, Inc. IP Statement
>
>
> >
> > Gentlemen:
> >
> > We have received your messages of April 26, one to the WG and the
> other from
> > the WG co-chairs to us suggesting a conference call.  In view of the
> > importance of the matter, we submit this response to clarify the
> status of
> > our considerations.
> >
> > We are seriously considering the WG's concerns and suggestions with
> respect
> > to our IPR statement, although our statement was virtually identical
> to many
> > other IPR statements that have been posted on the IETF site, including
> > statements submitted by companies such as IBM, Sun Microsystems,
> Lucent,
> > Fujitsu, Cisco, EMC and many others including some of our competitors.
> >
> > We are aware of and sensitive to the IETF's considerations, including
> the
> > potential impediment to the standards-setting process that may be
> presented
> > by such statements and IPR claims in general.
> >
> > WALID, Inc. is genuinely committed to finding a solution that will
> enable
> > the WG to fulfill its standards-setting objective of selecting the
> best
> > available technology for the RFC, yet at the same time we have a duty
> to act
> > responsibly with respect to our employees and shareholders. We are
> therefore
> > seeking a solution that will fairly balance the rights and interests
> of all
> > parties, while also taking into account the broader interests of the
> > Internet community.
> >
> > As we continue to work toward a solution, we are mindful that some of
> the
> > issues involved, principally certain legal and policy considerations,
> may go
> > beyond the IETF's technical standards-setting function.  Consequently,
> we
> > require some additional time to complete our assessment, sort through
> the
> > alternatives and identify an optimum solution.
> >
> > Regards,
> > J. Douglas Hawkins
> > WALID, Inc.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marc Blanchet [mailto:Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 10:14 PM
> > To: dhawkins@walid.com
> > Cc: jseng@pobox.org.sg
> > Subject: idn wg
> >
> >
> > On March 20th, the ietf idn wg co-chairs sent you a request for some
> > possible new IP statement from Walid inc. regarding the 6,182,148
> patent.
> > On April 13th, you responded by a series of questions that were
> answered on
> > the same day by one of the IDNA author. In order to help the process,
> would
> > a conference call help Walid inc. to understand the IETF process?
> >
> > Marc & James, co-chairs of the idn wg.
> >
>
>