Re: [idn] report of the straw poll

["James Seng/Personal" <James@Seng.cc>]

To add another point, which we may/may not want to consider valid:

Verisign is moving ahead to put RACE into their .COM zone would means
wide deployment of RACE and also applications (or servers) to be
developed to support resolutions. They may or may not be IDNA or even
close to the what we like to be.

But the fact that this is happening is somewhat of a concern as it may
undermine the work we are doing in this Working Group as it *might* lead
to an industry driven protocol.

-James Seng

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Davis" <markdavis34@home.com>
To: "Paul Hoffman / IMC" <phoffman@imc.org>; "Dave Crocker"
<dhc@dcrocker.net>
Cc: <idn@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [idn] report of the straw poll


> This is clearly urgent.
>
> 1) There is a vast pent-up demand for this, as evidenced by the number
of
> registrations at the Verisign test bed and other places. (I suspect
that if
> the English speakers on this list had been forced to write URLs with
> Cyrillic characters all their lives, they would have more of a sense
of
> urgency also ;-)
>
> 2) The delay is just producing dozens of incompatible ad-hoc
'solutions',
> all getting more and more entrenched. (From the outside, it does not
appear
> that the debate on this list has been particularly productive for some
time,
> in that there is little evidence of people changing their positions
due to
> the discussions.)
>
> Mark
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc@dcrocker.net>
> To: "Paul Hoffman / IMC" <phoffman@imc.org>
> Cc: <idn@ops.ietf.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:00
> Subject: Re: [idn] report of the straw poll
>
>
> > At 08:54 AM 5/25/2001, Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote:
> > >The WG chair didn't seem to declare "rough consensus",
unfortunately. The
> > >poll showed one strongly-favored choice and a vast smattering of
other
> > >choices with none having even 10% of the support. Is
> >
> > Bill Semich's concern that 'yes' got only 36 votes has some appeal,
> > although the normal IETF view is that we only consider the concerns
and
> > desires of those who show up.  We cannot guess the desires of people
who
> > did not participate in the straw poll.
> >
> > On the other hand, the 36 was less than 2/3 of the vote.  My
personal
> > approximation between "rough consensus" a percentage is not less
than 2/3,
> > because having 1/3 of a group disagree with a decision is simply too
> strong
> > a constituency to have unhappy.
> >
> > As to how to proceed, I wonder whether we should first resolve the
> question
> > of urgency.  Although it is beyond my comprehension, a number of
people
> > seem to believe that there is little urgency.  Perhaps we should
assess
> > working group view of urgency.  If there is consensus about urgency
THEN
> we
> > can try to consider what solutions are amenable to quicker
deployment.
> >
> > d/
> >
> >
> > ----------
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> >
> >
> >
>
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