Re: [idn] Report from the ACE design team

[Makoto Ishisone <ishisone@sra.co.jp>]

In message <20010625203131.A15948@beatles.cselt.it>,
Maurizio Codogno <mau@beatles.cselt.it> wrote:
> > The following points are my main concern:
> > 
> > 1) Is 14-15 character is enough?
> >    At least for Japanese domain names, name of a company or an
> >    organization is sometimes quite long.
> 
> When I was younger, some Japanese friend explained me that usually a single
> ideogram is the equivalent of a word in a Latin language.

A single ideogram has a certain meaning(s) (that's what ideogram is),
but I don't think it is an equivalent of a Latin word.  If it is, the
number of Japanese words is so small :-)  It is more like a combination
of a few ideograms that is comparable to Latin word, I think.

> Could you please give some example of a name of
> a Japanese organization with a long string of characters? (actually the
> number of characters in Japanese and a rough translation will suffice,
> since I cannot read Japanese).

Sure.  I looked around and found two examples.  Both names exceed 15
characters and DUDE cannot encode them, but other more space efficient
ACEs can.

1. JPNIC (the registry of .jp domain)
JPNIC's official name consists of 25 characters.  Most of the characters
are phonograms (Katakana), though.

  U+793E U+56E3 U+6CD5 U+4EBA U+65E5 U+672C U+30CD U+30C3 U+30C8 \
  U+30EF U+30FC U+30AF U+30A4 U+30F3 U+30D5 U+30A9 U+30E1 U+30FC \
  U+30B7 U+30E7 U+30F3 U+30BB U+30F3 U+30BF U+30FC

2. A helth-insurance organization in Tokyo
This name also contains a few phonograms, but most are ideograms.

  U+6771 U+4EAC U+90FD U+60C5 U+5831 U+30B5 U+30FC U+30D3 U+30B9 \
  U+7523 U+696D U+5065 U+5EB7 U+4FDD U+967A U+7D44 U+5408

						   -- ishisone@sra.co.jp