Re: [idn] Report from the ACE design team

["Soobok Lee" <lsb@postel.co.kr>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Whistler" <kenw@sybase.com>
To: <lsb@postel.co.kr>
Cc: <idn@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [idn] Report from the ACE design team


> Soobok Lee wrote:
>
> > I believe long natural sentence/phrase domains escape your arguments.
> >
> > In CJK, "What is the nearest macdonald hamberger shop from
here?".(kr|cn|jp|tw)
>
> ??
>
> Why would someone want to type in:
>
> "konomawariniwaichibanchikaimakudonarudohambaaganomisewadokodeshooka.co.jp"
>
    1                                10                              20
30
This japanese example sentence exceeds 33 ganas!   :-))
In CJK, sentences/phrases with 15~20 syllables are regarded as very SHORT ones.


> when they could go to
>
> mcdonalds.co.jp
>
> click on the "zenkoku no mise listo" (List of all stores in the country)
> button on the home page and get the same results?
>
> If people wanted to do creative PR marketing, they could create
>
> my-makudonarudo.co.jp  (with "makudonarudo" in Katakana, if you like)
>
> and have the custom site *remember* where you live and which restaurant
> you like to go to nearby.
>
> Maybe movie names or band names, and stuff like that -- sure. Marketers
> love that stuff.

It's premature to be pessimistic  about the usefulness and future of
sentence/phrase domains that are not actively experimented enough yet.


>
> > domain
> > may  raise interests and easier to remember and that was not possible
> > with LDH domains  for CJK peoples.
>
> Yes, but use of excessively long natural phrase domains like this is just
> misuse of what domain names should be for, in my opinion, and will be
> quickly outcompeted by more effective ways to get people to visit your
> sites and get the information or whatever else they are looking for.
>

IMHO, IDN will partly replace Directory/Search/Keyword services (still useful).
And that's one of the purposes of introducing IDN.

Soobok Lee




> --Ken
>
> >
> > .kr .cn .jp domain suffices may be omitted in future localized web browsers,
and
> > it will make japanese and chinese sentence domains good for PR marketing.
> >
> > I think it is safe for us to leave much rooms for these creative naming
> > conventions
> > in our ACE proposals for the future.
>