[idn] Re: [idn-nameprep] Arabic hyphen-like glyph

["James Seng/Personal" <James@Seng.cc>]

I think this discussion take a strange twist.

I am not sure where the discussion about "folding look-alive characters"
but that is certainly not the intention of nameprep, nor jpchar nor
tsconv.

Please keep the discussion within the focus of the core interest, namely
nameprep, jpchar or tsconv for "matching problems".

If there is intention to talk about "folding look-alive characters" then
please write an I-D, get your 7 core interest then come back to the wg.
Personally, I do not suggest anyone going into this rathole...

-James Seng

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soobok Lee" <lsb@postel.co.kr>
To: <idn@ops.ietf.org>; <idn-nameprep@viagenie.qc.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 11:16 AM
Subject: [idn-nameprep] Arabic hyphen-like glyph


> Arabic glyph U+0640 (Arabic TATWEEL) looks like Latin hyphen(-).
>
> Arabic FULLSTOP U+06D4  looks like Latin 'underline' (or 'hyphen' ).
>
> Using hyphen instead of punctuation char NWNJ(U+200C,No-width No
joiner)
>  may not help but cause confusion to native-Arabic people.
>
>
> Soobok Lee, lsb@postel.co.kr
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Duerst" <duerst@w3.org>
> To: "Roozbeh Pournader" <roozbeh@sharif.edu>
> Cc: "John C Klensin" <klensin@jck.com>; "Dan Oscarsson"
<Dan.Oscarsson@trab.se>;
> <idn@ops.ietf.org>; <idn-nameprep@viagenie.qc.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 10:25 AM
> Subject: [idn] ZWNJ (was: Re: Just send UTF-8 with nameprep (was: RE:
> [idn]Reality Check))
>
>
> > At 19:33 01/07/25 +0430, Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
> > >On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Martin Duerst wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't want to disagree with your conclusion, but I'm not
> > > > sure about the premise (that we need the original spelling),
> > > > so I didn't get into the details of what would follow.
> > >
> > >We may need original spelling, for example if we decide that we
need to
> > >stop Arabic letters from joining, by using a ZWNJ between them
(since a
> > >space is not available). Multiword Arabic domain names will be
unreadable
> > >if the words join. But since ZNWJ is stripped at nameprep, we will
> > >sometimes need to get to the original. You get the idea.
> >
> > Hello Roozbeh,
> >
> > Many thanks for your comment. As far as I remember, currently ZNWJ
is
> > dropped by nameprep without complaining. I think that if that leads
to
> > problems as you describe above, we should very carefully reexamine
> > this decision. I have already told the nameprep design team that
> > I think that this should be moved to 'disallowed' to avoid surprises
> > like the above. But I'm not sure moving it to 'disallowed' would
> > solve all problems (assuming that the hyphen is used for
concatenating
> > words).
> >
> > Regards,   Martin.
> >
> >
>