[idn] Fw: Cyrillics - Latin

["James Seng/Personal" <jseng@pobox.org.sg>]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sergey Charikov" <s.shar@regtime.net>
To: <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>; <owner-idn@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:34 PM
Subject: Cyrillics - Latin


> Do believe there's absolutely no any confusion of Latin vs Cyrillics
for
> Russian community.
>
> We can see many familiar words in another language characters
combinations,
> especially if there are similar drawing characters.
>
> The matter is when Russians see COBET (printed) they see "Soviet" and
no
> more
> And they print on a business card - COBET for website with cyrillics
content
> (for russian and cyrillics markets)
> but they take SOVIET usually for webpages on english.
> We should understand the cyrillics domains required for cyrillics
folks
> only.
>
> A PY (Paraguay) case is a funny thing only. This says about rushing to
use
> the native language even in such a way.
>
> Best Regards,
> Serguei Charikov
> Chair of Russian Language WG of MINC
> www.minc.org/WG/russian
>
> >
> > If I may add a note on Latin-Cyrillic confusion. Quoted
> > from an explanation I have been providing to another group.
> >
> > An aside note - I learnt from Russian colleagues that some
> > Russian favor to register domain names under .PY (ccTLD for
Paraguay)
> > rather that .RU (ccTLD for Russia). The reason is that "PY"
> > is the beginning of the word "Russia" in Cyrillic - PYCCU[R].
> > The last caracter is Cyrillic "ya", see below, any other is
identical
> > printing in Latin and Cyrillic, different code points in Unicode,
> > identical code point in "LDH".
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Elisabeth Porteneuve
> > --
> >
> >    Let have a glimpse on both end-user and intellectual property
> >    perspectives with an example.
> >
> >    The word "COBET" reads as it is if one assumes it is Latin
> >    alphabet, but spells "soviet" if one assumes it is Cyrillic.
> >    The Unicode code point representation for Cyrillic "C", 0x0421,
> >    is different from code point representation for Latin "C",
0x0043,
> >    but they are identical on a printed paper, business cards
> >    or a screen. Taking into account the above, a usage of Unicode
> >    code points subsequently makes it impossible to communicate
> >    with anybody without knowing which language is _printed_, or,
> >    even worst, which letter or sign is printed in which language.
> >
> >    In the famous TOYS[R]US the R in brackets is a Cyrillic
> >    code point 0x042f spelled "ya", which also happen to be the
> >    letter R seen as in mirror, spelled "are". With the exception
> >    of that letter [R], any other one in TOYS[R]US may be read
> >    either as Latin or as Cyrillic code point, different spellings,
> >    different code points, identical printing on paper or screen.
> >    In an example of a word of 6 code points, with the same
> >    printing but 2 different contents there is 2**6 = 64 possible
> >    combinations  It is the number of times a 6 letters word
> >    should be registered to preserve its whole intellectual
> >    property rights in 2 alphabets, Latin and Cyrillic.
> >    It is also the maximal number of tries an end-user should
> >    made to get to a website, if she or he got only a printed
> >    information.
> >    I have no competencies to expand this example to other
> >    alphabets or code points. Hovever, as far as I understand,
> >    the problem of Chinese code points have some similarity.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
>