Re: UTF-8 in Internet Drafts (was Re: [idn] I-D ACTION:draft-jseng-idn-admin-01.txt)

[Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>]

I have to fully agree with Mark. Getting the policy changed would
(Bbe great. For James' document, the us-ascii version is just a bunch
(Bof numbers. No help to those who
(Bdon't know Chinese characters, and no help to those who do. Just
(Ba waste of bits and paper, even if the topic may be
(Bimportant and interesting.
(B
(BI also was asked to put a lot of examples into draft-duerst-iri.
(BVery tough indeed, because these would have to be non-ASCII examples.
(B
(BI think as a first step, the IETF should start to accept drafts
(Bin parallel in US-ASCII and UTF-8 (the later with an extension of
(B.tx8 or so). I'm very sure both Mark and me would be ready to help
(Bthe IETF and the secretariat to get there.
(B
(BI also had some discussions with Marshal Rose in Yokohama to
(Bextend the XML2RFC format a bit so that 'the right thing' would
(Bhappen for both versions. We didn't get very far yet, but
(Bshould pick it up again.
(B
(BRegards,    Martin.
(B
(B
(BAt 21:17 02/10/22 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:
(B>I didn't say the *IDN WG* itself could change that. What I said was
(B>"Would there be any way to get the policy on the format of internet
(B>drafts to be amended to allow UTF-8? It is pretty painful trying to
(B>read documents when the actual characters cannot be used."
(B>
(B>I have no idea what the process that the Powers That Be have for
(B>deciding the formats for internet drafts. I simply hope that that
(B>policy gets changed, since it has gotten to the point that anyone who
(B>wants to can read and write UTF-8 documents; various tools to do so
(B>are free and easily available.
(B>
(B>Mark
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(B>----- Original Message -----
(B>From: "Paul Hoffman / IMC" <phoffman@imc.org>
(B>To: "Kenneth Whistler" <kenw@sybase.com>; <idn@ops.ietf.org>; "Mark
(B>Davis" <mark.davis@jtcsv.com>
(B>Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 19:02
(B>Subject: Re: [idn] I-D ACTION:draft-jseng-idn-admin-01.txt
(B>
(B>
(B> > Wait, wait! This is the *wrong place* for this debate.
(B> >
(B> > The IETF has fixed guidelines for submitting Internet Drafts. We
(B> > cannot change those guidelines in the IDN WG.
(B> >
(B> > --Paul Hoffman, Director
(B> > --Internet Mail Consortium
(B> >