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Re: Requirements



Is wireless just another link layer? I guess that's an ok definition if you take a
narrow view (technical viewpoint). But I think of wireless as a category of
technology that has a collection or difficult set of (and some unique) issues
associated with it. All these issues need to be addresses before wireless becomes
a good Internet access choice. Just because it is labeled a "link layer" doesn't
mean it the same as past issues and it is uninteresting.          Regards  John

James Kempf wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Good point. This issue has come up in the paging and BURP discussions as well.
> Both are also applicable to the "nomadicity" model, where an IP
> host is unplugged from one wired outlet and plugged into another.
> So the issue isn't so much wireless (which implies a link layer)
> as mobility (which doesn't).
>
>                 jak
>
>
> >From: "tim clifford" <tjc@lacunanet.net>
> >To: "James Kempf" <James.Kempf@Sun.COM>, <more@ops.ietf.org>, <jgw@cisco.com>
> >Subject: RE: Requirements
> >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:23:27 -0400
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> >which would seem to imply that we need to try to convince people at the ietf
> >(i think its a misnomer to say "convince the ietf") that we're talking about
> >more than a link layer, maybe the right term is mobility, or roaming
> >services, or disadvantaged user devices, or large populations of always on
> >subscribers  ;-)
> >
> >tc
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-more@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-more@ops.ietf.org]On Behalf
> >> Of James Kempf
> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 11:47 AM
> >> To: more@ops.ietf.org; jgw@cisco.com
> >> Subject: Re: Requirements
> >>
> >>
> >> John,
> >>
> >> There is no such catalog. In general, IETF has been resistent to
> >> making wireless a special category. It is viewed as just another link
> >> layer.
> >>
> >>              jak
> >>
> >> >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:15:34 -0400
> >> >From: "John G. Waclawsky" <jgw@cisco.com>
> >> >To: more@ops.ietf.org
> >> >Subject: Re: Requirements
> >> >
> >> >Does anyone know if the IETF does an cataloguing of activities
> >> with regards to
> >> wireless?
> >> >For example is there a cross reference anywhere that describes wireless
> >> activities going
> >> >on in the IETF?  This information would probably be very uesful
> >> for the mobile
> >> >operators.    Regards  John
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >