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RE: time to say "good enough"?



On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, David Harrington:
> Could we submit this for "good-enough" status?
> 
> Could we redirect our scarce resources to something useful to operators?

I assume that this comment is directed at all of the ongoing MIB
review guidelines doc discussion, and not just the recent chatter on
the "Extensible TCs" thread.  And I've gathered from the generally
low level of participation in the discussion that most of the folks
here feel pretty much the same way.

If that is indeed the case, then I would be happy to wrap up this
phase of the work and submit an -01 draft.  If I were to do that,
the table below shows how I would deal with current open issues.

As far as I'm concerned the only really pressing issue is the 2nd
one on the list ("Disposition of IANA-maintained MIB modules"), but
I don't think we can actually settle that one here.  With that one
exception, I think the document could be used "as is" (even with a
few open issues) to get our "running code" experience.

Regards,

Mike

Issue                     Section  Status                           Disposition

Importing items used in   4.4      Change from MAY to RECOMMENDED   Leave the
compliance statements &            proposed;  call for consensus    current
capabilities statements            issued;  no feedback received.   text as is.

Disposition of            4.5      Current text states that         List as an
IANA-maintained                    IANA-maintained MIB modules      open issue
MIB modules                        are to be removed prior to       in the -01
                                   publication.  Some folks         draft.
                                   advocate publishing the
                                   initial version (cf. RFC 1573)
                                   to provide a record;  others
                                   argue that the IANA version is
                                   normative and that IETF specs
                                   should not have non-normative
                                   text that duplicates something
                                   in a referenced spec.  This
                                   issue is still under discussion.
                                   It will also be necessary to add
                                   instructions for including an
                                   IESG-mandated copyright notice
                                   once the IESG has decided what
                                   form that notice should take.

Should the guidelines     4.6.1.10 Change proposal for 4.8 posted   Accept the
RECOMMEND that compliance          to list;  A. Bierman objected on latest text
statements include OBJECT          the grounds that it makes the    proposed by
clauses with SYNTAX that           compliance statements too long,  the editor.
includes all named                 and suggested that such OBJECT
numbers or named bits              clauses be added only after a
for enumerated INTEGER             revision makes them necessary
or BITS objects with               (note that Section 4.9 already
extensible enumerations?           recommends doing that when
                                   it is needed).  B. Wijnen
                                   suggested that the reco could
                                   apply just to definitions that
                                   use imported TCs.  Text was
                                   proposed for Section 4.6.1.10
                                   recommending specification of
                                   supported values in such cases;
                                   it is under discussion.

Should DESCRIPTION        4.6.2    Text has been proposed;          Accept the
clause of read-write               "wfm" from B. Wijnen;            proposed
objects specify                    more feedback awaited.           text.
persistence of
values across reboot?

Should guidelines say     4.6.3    Text has been proposed;          Accept the
something about not                a comment from R. Presuhn        text with
using IMPLIED?                     has been incorporated;           Randy's
                                   additional feedback awaited.     changes.

Should it be explicitly   4.6.4    Text has been proposed;          Accept the
stated that objects                lukewarm OK from B. Wijnen;      editor's
SHOULD NOT be registered           more feedback awaited.           proposed
beneath groups, MCs, ACs?                                           text.

Should it be mandated     4.6.5    Editor has proposed modified     Accept the
that overall index size            text that is though to           editor's
limit be spelled out in            better represent the rough       proposed
tables where SIZE clauses          consensus from the APM-MIB       text.
do not enforce the 128             discussion;  feedback has
sub-identifier limit?              been requested.

Should a section be       4.6.6    B. Wijnen & M. Heard supported   List as an
added to cover                     the idea;  other opinions have   open issue
recommended naming                 been requested, but none have    in the -01
conventions?                       been publically expressed.       draft.

Does SMICng include    Appendix C  The include file in Appendix C   List as an
file need to be updated            was built for book version       open issue
                                   2.2.07                           in the -01
                                                                    draft.