RE: network controls are necessary

["Tony Li" <Tony.Li@procket.com>]

|   Tony Hain wrote:
|   > This looks like a big problem to the network admin, 
|   because they are
|   > used to dealing with a few boxes, but for a host admin, 
|   this is exactly
|   > what they do. What needs to happen here is for them to 
|   work together
|   > (*gasp*).
|   
|   This is the end to end argument run amok.  If this truely is an 
|   assumption then Joel is right, and this is a recipe for 
|   failure.  You 
|   were right to gasp because more often than not in large 
|   companies this 
|   is *not* the case.


In fact, in my humble experience, it is normally the case that they
are mortal enemies, competing for budget.

Tony