Re: Question re HIP dependency [Re: about Wedgelayer 3.5 / Fat IP approaches]

[Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se>]

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On 2004-07-26, at 00.14, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

> On 25-jul-04, at 20:36, Jari Arkko wrote:
>
>> I also think that posing the question at this time is a bit unfair on 
>> HIP. The responses that you got were that its either OK to use HIP or 
>> that HIP lacks feature X or Y which make it problematic to use it. 
>> The problem is, most if not all proposals in the category of 
>> solutions we are considering have such deficiencies; our task is to 
>> compose or develop a solution which overcomes these difficulties.
>
> The way I understood Brian's question is: would it be ok to build on 
> HIP the same way some proposed solutions build on the DNS, ie., just 
> assume that it's there and that it works.
>
> My answer to this was that there are two issues: the first is that HIP 
> isn't deployed yet. This will/can be solved in time and propbably 
> isn't all that important in the long run. Still, building on HIP _now_ 
> would probably make our life more difficult. The second is that HIP as 
> it is today has certain properties that are undesirable for a generic 
> multihoming solution. (Larger packets and mandatory crypto.) This 
> would be like using the DNS but the DNS takes 15 minutes to resolve a 
> query: you can build such a solution, but it doesn't address the user 
> needs very well..
>
> So basically what we're saying is that we only want to use HIP if it's 
> modified to our liking.  :-)  This isn't unfair as we want all the 
> solutions to be modified to our liking.  (-:

I  agree with what Iljitsch is saying, but it might also be important 
to note if we want to give HIP special consideration compared to other 
proposals, as HIP is actually a independent standard being built. I 
don't think that either though.

- - kurtis -

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