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RE: NetConf Data Modeling Discussion
Hi Andrea,
I am in favor of blending in the DMTF work as long as we include a "simple" data-model variant that does not require all the complexities of CIM. We've been playing around with CIM for a while now and abandoned it for simple installations that can get away with much less generic stuff and more deployment specific stuff.
Branislav
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org]On
> Behalf Of Andrea Westerinen
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:04 AM
> To: 'Romascanu, Dan (Dan)'; 'Faye Ly'; 'Sharon Chisholm'; 'netconf'
> Cc: wg-network@dmtf.org
> Subject: RE: NetConf Data Modeling Discussion
>
>
> Could I make a suggestion that we try to blend the DMTF's Common
> Information Modeling work into this? There is a great base of
> abstractions in CIM (systems, services, hardware, etc.) and new
> activities in the Networks WG in modeling VLANs, VPNs, NAT,
> Frame Relay,
> etc.
>
> We discussed this NetConf thread at the DMTF Networks WG call
> yesterday
> - and want to offer our support and models. If there are things to
> change or add, we are certainly open to that discussion.
>
> Andrea
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org
> [mailto:owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:13 AM
> To: Faye Ly; Sharon Chisholm; netconf
> Subject: RE: NetConf Data Modeling Discussion
>
>
> Let me add my vote in support of starting this activity as soon as
> possible. I never agreed or even understood the 'protocol first'
> approach taken by NetConf. In my eyes NetConf will hold a real chance
> when I will see useful data models starting to be defined and used.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
> (if I am to ramble negatively, SNMP started to fail when the big heads
> continued to over-refine the protocol instead of writing
> useful MIBs for
> operators to use. Bur certainly many people will not agree with me).
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org
> > [mailto:owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org]On Behalf Of Faye Ly
> > Sent: 04 February, 2004 8:33 PM
> > To: Sharon Chisholm; netconf
> > Subject: RE: Netconf Data Modeling Discussion
> >
> >
> > Sharon,
> >
> > I was not at the Minneapolis meeting but I think this is a
> great idea.
> >
> > It will not only help move forward the netconf but also provides a
> > sanity check.
> >
> > I would vote for yes for you to go ahead and start the new
> > mailing list.
> >
> > -faye
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org
> > [mailto:owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sharon Chisholm
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:20 AM
> > To: netconf
> > Subject: Netconf Data Modeling Discussion
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I wasn't able to make it to the Minneapolis meeting, but my
> > understanding was there was discussion about setting up a separate
> > mailing list to discuss Netconf data modeling. I think this is an
> > important issue unto itself but there are also potential
> implications
> > on the base protocol work being done in this working groups that it
> > would be good to identify sooner rather than later.
> >
> > I haven't seen an announcement of a new mailing list yet. I've been
> > talking with our mailing list people and it looks like we
> could host
> > such a mailing list. Should I go ahead and get this list created?
> >
> > Sharon Chisholm
> > Portfolio Integration
> > Nortel Networks
> > Ottawa, Canada
> >
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