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RE: Begin WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netconf-prot-04



Well, by now (in fact a few years back when we did our NM-road-show
so to speak) I do know about expect scripts. But since these 
documents may get in hands of many people who do not know about
such things, it might indeed be useful to add at least a reference
or some explanatory text (as Simon provided for example).

bert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org]On
> Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 16:43
> To: Simon Leinen
> Cc: Andy Bierman; netconf@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: Begin WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netconf-prot-04
> 
> 
> Simon,
> 
> Unless I am the last person on the list learning about this, 
> I would suggest that a short note and an Informative 
> Reference be added. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Simon Leinen [mailto:simon@limmat.switch.ch]
> > Sent: 28 November, 2004 5:41 PM
> > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > Cc: Andy Bierman; netconf@ops.ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: Begin WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netconf-prot-04
> > 
> > 
> > Dan,
> > 
> > thanks for your review.  Here's a quick response to one of your
> > questions:
> > 
> > > 4. Section 7.5 - what is an 'Expect script'?
> > 
> > From http://expect.nist.gov/ -
> > 
> >     "Expect is a tool for automating interactive 
> applications such as
> >     telnet, ftp, passwd, fsck, rlogin, tip, etc. Expect really makes
> >     this stuff trivial. Expect is also useful for testing these same
> >     applications. [...]"
> > 
> > Operators use it a lot to script interactions with devices 
> that have a
> > CLI (command line interface).  Expect scripts are often the 
> basis for
> > specialized higher-layer tools such as configuration control systems
> > (see RANCID, http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/).
> > 
> > The original "Expect" was written in Tcl, but there are 
> many variants
> > of the idea, such as the Chat.pl, Comm.pl, and Expect.pm modules for
> > Perl.
> > 
> > So when we talk about "Expect scripts", we usually refer to all
> > scripted usage of the CLI.  Which should gradually be replaced by
> > scripts that use NETCONF.
> > -- 
> > Simon.
> > 
> > 
> 
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