RE: Difference between get and get-config

["McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com>]

Hi,

Andy Bierman wrote:
>
> Yes, well, thankfully, the IETF lets us change and correct documents.
> As Juergen pointed out, the standards process does not actually
> expect documents to be perfect at the time of Proposed Standard.
>
> We are allowed to do any of 4 things (I think) wrt/ IETF Process,
> subject to IETF Approval:
>
>  1) Advance RFC 4741 to Draft Standard as-is
>  2) Create a clarification-only update to RFC 4741 and advance to DS
>  3) Create any update to RFC 4741 and cycle at Proposed Standard
>  4) Reclassify RFC 4741 as Historic (yeah, right ;-)
>
> Gather all the clarifications for later...
>


About your options (1) or (2):

Well, not quite.  Once an IETF Draft Standard is approved,
that Draft Standard MUST NEVER be revised in a way that 
breaks backward compatibility.  Also, two independent 
implementations of a client as well as two independent 
implementations of a server that implement EVERY operation 
and element are necessary to advance to Draft Standard. 
These flaky Netconf error conditions would effectively 
preclude such advancement, even if the rest of the Netconf
protocol were bullet-proof (which it isn't).

Your option (3) would be appropriate, but cleaning up the
error conditions and all the other ambiguities should be
done before forwarding it to the IESG for last call.

Your option (4) isn't really such a joke - a clean page
might be the better approach.

IMHO - a management protocol without a data model and
complete object/attribute/element semantics is of very 
dubious value.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

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