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Re: roots wasRe: filtering problem



----- Original Message -----
From: "Balazs Lengyel" <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
To: "tom.petch" <cfinss@dial.pipex.com>
Cc: <ietf@andybierman.com>; <netconf@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: roots wasRe: filtering problem


> Hello,
> I think the datastore will often have multiple roots. I foresee/have heard of
the following
> situations that as I understand are all valid in Netconf:
> 1) One root in one namespace, other namespaces might be mounted as subtrees
> 2) One root per namespace
> 3) One namespace but with many root elements
> 4) Many roots in many namespaces
>
> Case 2 can be viewed as a the single rooted case 1) where the first branching
is according to
> the namespace.
>
> Case 3) and 4) I feel the filter should be applied to each root and the
results of these
> combined under the <data> element in the get/get-config reply.
>
> Comments?
>

Mmmm - even more complex than I thought.  My initial concern was whether or not
the Notifications, the draft in Last Call, were regarded for filtering purposes
as part of the configuration datastore at all, or whether the filter was applied
to the document as it would appear on the wire were it to pass a filter.

Tom Petch

> Balazs
>
> tom.petch wrote:
> > This may relate to something that has been bugging me.
> >
> > XPath is - at times - specified in terms of a root, and an XML document has
a
> > single root element.  What is on the wire is an XML document but the
datastore
> > is not - as Andy has pointed out before.
> >
> > So what is an XPath filter being applied to?  The event as it would appear
on
> > the wire as an XML document?  A conceptual document created in the datastore
for
> > the purposes of filtering?  And if the latter, should we - we should! -
specify
> > a root, either for the purposes of the examples or else for everything.
> >
> > RFC4741 is quite discursive about roots but the notification I-D is silent;
I
> > think that this last needs to change.
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martin Bjorklund" <mbj@tail-f.com>
> > To: <ietf@andybierman.com>
> > Cc: <netconf@ops.ietf.org>
> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 4:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: filtering problem
> >
> >
> >> Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> There is another problem with filtering and the examples in sec 5: (!!!)
> >>>
> >>> The draft must say exactly where in the <notification> element
> >>> that the <filter> is applied.  The current text does not say anything.
> >> Agreed.
> >>
> >>> All the examples in sec. 5 are broken because the 'notification type'
> >>> layer is missing.
> >> I think it is ok.  Specify that the filter is applied to the
> >> 'notificationContent' element as root (which is the abstract element).
> >>
> >>> The examples assume the filters can only be
> >>> applied to a conceptual datastore, just like the <rpc> filter.
> >>>
> >>> However, the most commonly needed filter is going to be
> >>> on the notification type itself!
> >>>
> >>> Example (w/o namespaces):
> >>>
> >>>    <notification>
> >>>      <configChange>
> >>>         <configChangeTime>date-time string...</configChangeTime>
> >>>         <configChangedBy>fred@example.com</configChangedBy>
> >>>         <configTarget>/interfaces/interface[name='eth0']</configTarget>
> >>>          ...
> >>>      </configChange>
> >>>    </notification>
> >>>
> >>> For simplicity, assume the manager just wants
> >>> this one notification type. The filter is going to be something like:
> >>>
> >>>   <filter type="subtree">
> >>>     <configChange/>
> >>>   </filter>
> >> Yes, and IMO this is consistent with the examples.
> >>
> >>
> >> /martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> A filter for configChange just on a specific configTarget might be:
> >>>
> >>>   <filter type="subtree">
> >>>     <configChange>
> >>>       <configTarget>/interfaces/interface[name='eth0']</configTarget>
> >>>     </configChange>
> >>>   </filter>
> >>>
> >>> The way the draft is now does not reflect how notifications are
> >>> actually structured.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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