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RE: Methods in the NIM requirements
- To: firstname.lastname@example.org
- Subject: RE: Methods in the NIM requirements
- From: "Weiss, Walter" <WWeiss@lucentctc.com>
- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:35:43 -0400
- Delivery-date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:36:33 -0700
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I think Keith's point is accurate (and I phrased my point poorly), SNMP
assumes a memory map model. Therefore, the protocol *and* the data
structures assume an interactive relationship with the device (a "go" in
Andrea's terms). But I think we are refining the parameters of the question
without discussing the question directly. If the NIM model implies a "go"
semantic, how is the model applicable to the directory. If I have a method
for reboot that means do it now, how do I represent the current state
(rebooting/(re)initializing/unavailable) of the machine in a directory.
"Go" implies real-time semantics, yet we all know that directories are not
well suited for real-time status representations.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 7:40 AM
> To: Weiss, Walter
> Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: RE: Methods in the NIM requirements
> You've said this twice now:
> >Should the semantics of "go" be in the model? If we look at many
> >of the models out there today, all have "go" semantics. However,
> >most are in the protocol itself. The SET command is part of SNMP,
> >not the MIB.
> >In contrast, when the model is applied to a management protocol
> >(SNMP), actions are implied by the protocol (GETs and SETs).
> But it isn't true. The semantics of SNMP's SET command itself
> are simply changing the value of a MIB object (attribute). If an
> SNMP SET is going to have side effects, these *must* be specified
> in the MIB definition of the object being SET.
> The *protocol* operation that embodies the concept of an action is
> (not surprisingly) CMIS/CMIP's M-ACTION operation.
> Bob Moore
> IBM Networking Software