Re: Whitepaper on XML-based Network Management

["David T. Perkins" <dperkins@dsperkins.com>]

HI,

Sorry I was not clear. Yes, Randy, I have been studying the religious
texts and yes I have heard and understood what is wanted. Also, XML
provides many benefits, but it also costs. Hopefully we can find a
way to take advantages of the benefits, and also mitigate (lower) the
costs. (I believe that the white-paper from Juniper overstated the
benefits (as most white papers on XML do), and understated the
costs. Also, it did not look at the problem from the managed device
side.) Additionally, I believe that the organization and identification
of the management information that Juniper has done has benefited from
the experience of earlier vendors of routers, and is "better". 
However, putting it in XML did not make it better, re-engineering
it made it better. Let's not confuse the two.

At 04:05 PM 7/30/2001 -0700, Randy Bush wrote:
>> Yes, Randy, the backbone operators are members of the Text-based
>> religious sect.
>
>and we're the ones whose cash you want.  so start studying the religious
>texts.  you might start with <draft-ops-operator-req-mgmt-00.txt>.
>
>the enterprise operators are of the same mind, it turns out.  and yes, we
>checked.  of course this should have been blatantly obvious from the fact
>that the vendors do not see enough busine$$ to even code the snmp write
>stuff to even make routers etc. configurable from snmp if someone wanted
>to.
>
>repeat as many times as necessary: 
>    *EVERYONE* USES TEXT-BASED CLIs TO CONFIGURE ROUTERS ETC.
>
>i guess i will bring that sledge.  woody, can you do a quick tee-shirt?
>i'll help pay.
>
>randy
>
>---
>
>p.s. snmp get for monitoring is *heavily* used.  no arguing with that.

Regards,
/david t. perkins