RE: minneapolis

["Glen Zorn" <gwz@cisco.com>]

Avi Lior <mailto:avi@bridgewatersystems.com> writes:

>> Hope this helps,
> 
> Not really.

Sorry to hear that.

...

> 
> Aside, there is nothing in Diameter that makes it more capable then
> RADIUS when it comes to prepaid.  What makes it more capable? 

You forgot the smiley, right?

> 
> Other people want to do prepaid and they don't want Diameter.
> 
> I think there are many good reasons for having a WG.  The least of
> which is a place where people can review the documents. 

Is 3GPP2 going to change their pre-paid implementation based upon the
(proposed) WG review?  If _technical_ review is desired, then this task
would make sense as a (proposed) WG work item; if not, I'm sure that
3GPP2 is quite capable of checking their own spelling and grammar...

> 
> Putting it in the same light as your comment.  If 3GPP is the only
> SDO who want Diameter why do we have to have an IETF AAA-WG for it?
> Let them do the work there. 

As I'm sure you are aware, the Diameter work started in the IETF long
before 3GPP was a glimmer in ETSI's eye...in any case, my statement
referred to the 3GPP2 version of pre-paid _as a work item_, not to the
formation of a WG per se.

 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Glen Zorn [mailto:gwz@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:57 AM
>> To: 'Avi Lior'
>> Cc: 'Randy Bush'; 'radius list'
>> Subject: RE: minneapolis
>> 
>> 
>> Avi Lior <mailto:avi@bridgewatersystems.com> writes:
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>>> Regarding prepaid, I have received several email with comments and
>>> am working on the next version of the draft.  I have certain issues
>>> to resolve all of which pertain to incoming suggestions and how to
>>> keep this document aligned with what 3GPP2 has done.  I just need
>>> some advice. 
>>> 
>>> - Someone wants a description of how do to simple pre-paid which
>>> will work with the lowest common denominator RADIUS deployments
>>> (ie., no CHIBA, no new attributes etc).  Is that a separate
>>> document or do I add that as an Appendix?
>> 
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> ~gwz
>> 
>> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
>> temporary safety deserve neither..."
>> -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759
>> 
>> "It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are
>> punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of
>> trumpets." 
>> -- Voltaire

Hope this helps,

~gwz

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither..." 
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless
they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets." 
-- Voltaire



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