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RE: FW: Vlan draft - relationhip of tunnel attributes and egress-xxx attributes



How about this (insert in Section 2.1, second paragraph):

"As defined in [RFC3580], the VLAN assigned via tunnel attributes applies both to the ingress VLANID for untagged packets (known as the PVID) and the egress VLANID for untagged packets. In contrast, the Egress-VLANID attribute configures only the egress VLANID for either tagged or untagged packets. The Egress-VLANID attribute MAY be included in the same RADIUS packet as [RFC3580] tunnel attributes; however, the Egress-VLANID attribute is not necessary if it is being used to configure the same untagged VLANID included in tunnel attributes. To configure an untagged VLAN for both ingress and egress, the tunnel attrubutes of [RFC3580] MUST be used."



From: "Congdon, Paul T (ProCurve)" <paul.congdon@hp.com>
To: <radiusext@ops.ietf.org>
Subject: FW: Vlan draft - relationhip of tunnel attributes and egress-xxx attributes
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:12:57 -0700


some how the list got dropped... Comments welcome.


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From: Congdon, Paul T (ProCurve)
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:05 PM
To: Sanchez, Mauricio (ProCurve)
Subject: RE: Vlan draft - relationhip of tunnel attributes and
egress-xxx attributes


Ooops... Here are the suggested changes I was going to make.   Word
smithing expected... Replace the two paragraphs suggested with the
following.

"The tunnel attributes used for VLAN assignment described in [RFC3580]
configure both the ingress VLAN ID for untagged packets, also know as
the PVID, and the egress VLAN ID for untagged packets on that same VLAN.
The Egress-VLANID configures only the egress VLAN ID for either tagged
or untagged packets.  It is not necessary to use the Egress-VLANID
attribute to configure the same untagged VLANID that the tunnel
attributes of [RFC3580] confiures.  These attributes can be used
concurrently and MAY appear in the same RADIUS message.  To configure an
untagged VLAN for both ingress and egress the tunnel attrubutes of
[RFC3580] MUST be used."

Paul


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	From: owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org
[mailto:owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio
(ProCurve)
	Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:44 PM
	To: radiusext@ops.ietf.org
	Subject: Vlan draft - relationhip of tunnel attributes and
egress-xxx attributes



	Relationship of tunnel attributes and egress-xxx attributes
	address: mauricio.sanchez@hp.com Date first submitted: 4/27/06
	Reference: none
	Document: draft-ietf-radext-vlan-04.txt
	Comment type: T
	Priority: S
	Section: 2.1, 2.3
	Rationale/Explanation of issue:
	While the introduction acknowledges tunnel attributes from
rfc2868 and rfc3580, there is no guidance on their use with the
egress-vlanid and egress-vlan-name attributes.  I suggest formalizing
the fact that they can be used concurrently and providing guidance on
their interaction/relationship.

	Requested change:

	1) To section 2.1 add the following paragraph between the second
and third paragraphs of the description section for egress-vlanid:

	"Tunnel attributes, as described in [RFC2868] and [RFC3580], and
Egress-VLANID both can be used to configure the egress  VLAN for
untagged packets.  These attributes can be used concurrently and MAY
appear in the same RADIUS message.  When they do appear concurrently,
the list of allowed VLANs consists of the concatenation of all
Egress-VLANID attributes and the Tunnel-Private-Group-ID(81) attribute.

	Egress-VLANID does not alter the ingress VLAN untagged traffic
on a port, also known as the PVID.  The tunnel attributes from [RFC2868]
and [RFC3580] should be relied upon instead to set the PVID."


	2) To section 2.3 add the following paragraph between the first
and second paragraphs of the description section for egress-vlan-name:

	"Tunnel attributes, as described in [RFC2868] and [RFC3580], and
Egress-VLAN-Name both can be used to configure the egress VLAN for
untagged packets.  These attributes can be used concurrently and MAY
appear in the same RADIUS message.  When they do appear concurrently,
the list of allowed VLANs consists of the concatenation of all
Egress-VLAN-Name attributes and the Tunnel-Private-Group-ID(81)
attribute.

	Egress-VLAN-Name does not alter the ingress VLAN for untagged
traffic on a port, also known as the PVID.  The tunnel attributes from
[RFC2868] and [RFC3580] should be relied upon instead to set the PVID."


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	Network Security Architect
	ProCurve Networking Business
	Hewlett Packard
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	Roseville CA, 95747-5557

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