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RE: The RADIUS attribute space: an assessment
- To: <aland@nitros9.org>
- Subject: RE: The RADIUS attribute space: an assessment
- From: "Glen Zorn \(gwz\)" <gwz@cisco.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:33:13 -0700
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aland@nitros9.org <mailto:aland@nitros9.org> supposedly scribbled:
> "Glen Zorn \(gwz\)" <gwz@cisco.com> wrote:
>> This is a red herring: any vendor that can't keep the same interfaces
>> for RADIUS while supporting Diameter doesn't deserve to be in
>> business.
>
> You're joking, right?
>
> As far as I can tell, counting by the number of deployments,
> FreeRADIUS is the #2 RADIUS server on the planet. Maybe by your
> logic the project doesn't "deserve to be in business". But sticking
> your head in the sand and pretending it doesn't exist won't change
> things.
So you're saying that it is not possible to extend FreeRADIUS to support Diameter in the way that I suggest? I think that I would be a little put off by that, were I a FreeRADIUS developer.
>
> The reality is that many people who've deployed RADIUS *don't* have
> an upgrade path to Diameter. They don't have a free Diameter server
> they can use, and they don't have the budget to buy a commercial one.
> Even if they did have the budget to buy a commercial one, it would
> have significantly fewer features than the RADIUS server they're
> using right now.
Look at the list of new attributes in Bernard's original email. Are you telling me that these poor, poverty-stricken folks actually are going to need to support GEOPRIV & MobileIP?
>
> If you want to push Diameter, the best thing you could do is to
> fund the development of an Open Source Diameter server with a massive
> feature set,
Who funds FreeRADIUS?
> followed by ensuring that all NAS equipment supports
> Diameter.
>
> Until that happens, Diameter will continue to languish.
For years now, the most common questions I've heard from SP customers has been a variation on "What's happening with Diameter? Is it the wave of the future or a dead-end? Is the IETF supporting it or not?", all of which boil down to "Should we start thinking about migrating from RADIUS?". Of course, the only answer I can give is "I don't know". It appears that in your world the waffling of the IESG has had no effect upon this market confusion.
>
> Alan DeKok.
Hope this helps,
~gwz
Why is it that most of the world's problems can't be solved by simply
listening to John Coltrane? -- Henry Gabriel
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