Hi, > Yes, there has been a popular upswell of support for abandoning our work > in favor of yours -- oh, wait, that would be you alone... well, first: it's not abandoning abandoning RADIUS work. In fact, the RADIUS payload is left completely untouched. Second: it wasn't me alone. I was the one who showed up at IETF, that's right. But as you very well know, there was an implementation out there for years which had customers, and RadSec has proved useful to a worldwide-operating roaming consortium, and has been implemented by other parties meanwhile. If I had gotten an outright reject from the radext group as whole I wouldn't have taken the step to ask for rechartering. But if you recall IETF69+70, there *was* support for the work. Yes, there has also been an outcry to ignore RadSec completely -- oh, wait, that was you alone... > No, no, NO! "radsec" is not RADIUS, period. Not an extension, not even > a perversion, not RADIUS. We've had a discussion on that topic before on this list. That time, at the end you resorted to a strange analogy of ducks and snakes IIRC, not providing a reasonable argumentation. > I would support a radsec BOF & WG, but I will not support this. *Thank you*! It is very nice to read that you would support a WG for that work, which appears to imply that you see the concept as worthy for exploration and eventual standardisation. Actually, I had been thinking about this way forward as well. The outcome was that creating a whole new working group for this one thing probably isn't justified. After all, it is not likely to create follow-up work, it's pretty much a standalone thing to add to RADIUS. So, if a working group isn't justified due to lack of amount of work, but the work is still somewhat important, where would the place to go be? My conclusion was that radext is the place to go. And I still think that reasoning is justified, Bernard's reply in the thread looks like it is at least deemed worth a consideration. Greetings, Stefan Winter -- Stefan WINTER Stiftung RESTENA - Réseau Téléinformatique de l'Education Nationale et de la Recherche Ingenieur Forschung & Entwicklung 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi L-1359 Luxembourg E-Mail: stefan.winter@restena.lu Tel.: +352 424409-1 http://www.restena.lu Fax: +352 422473
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