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RE: RADIUS Calling-Station-Id for WiMAX



WoW lots of discussion on this issue.
 
So it was an oversight.  If someone would have reminded us about 3580 then we would have just adopted that.
 
Since we didnt.  It seems to me that a binary representation would be a more appropriate treatment for this value.  The human presentation of the MAC address is just that for humans and RADIUS couldnt give care.  Besides, the presentation of the MAC address has more then one format - one using ":" and one using "-".  So it is best to leave the presentation to a presentation layer and not the RADIUS layer.
 
So 3580 IMO got it wrong.  But as I said if one of you brought that up to our attention we would have fixed it to match 3580.

Which brings me to another point.  It isn't busted.  And changing it now will break backwards compatibility.  And breaking backwards compatibility is being viewed as a very bad thing.
 
Actually if we want to open this up again, the I propose getting rid of the MAC address or encrypting it since it violates one of the WiMAX and of the IETF tenents which is identity hidding.  We have the means to hide the user's identity but yet the MAC address is exposed.


From: owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Glen Zorn
Sent: September 10, 2008 1:42 PM
To: 'Ray Bell'; 'Matt Holdrege'; 'Bernard Aboba'; 'Congdon, Paul T (ProCurve)'; 'Mike Bean'; 'David Nelson'; radiusext@ops.ietf.org; 'Dan Romascanu'
Subject: RE: RADIUS Calling-Station-Id for WiMAX

Ray Bell [mailto://ray@grid-net.com] writes:

 

True mobility and roaming…

OK, I give: how does representing a MAC address is binary vs. ASCII enhance mobility or roaming?

 

From: owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Matt Holdrege
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:44 AM
To: Bernard Aboba; Congdon, Paul T (ProCurve); Mike Bean; David Nelson; radiusext@ops.ietf.org; Dan Romascanu
Subject: RE: RADIUS Calling-Station-Id for WiMAX

 

I don’t see any reason why RADIUS should differentiate between 802.16 and 802.11 or any other 802.

 

-Matt

 

 

From: owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Aboba
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:40 AM
To: Congdon, Paul T (ProCurve); Mike Bean; David Nelson; radiusext@ops.ietf.org; Dan Romascanu
Subject: RADIUS Calling-Station-Id for WiMAX

 

Some questions have arisen about the format of the Calling-Station-Id Attribute when used with WiMAX.

Since WiMAX is based on IEEE 802.16, and RFC 3580 applies to IEEE 802 technology, it would seem that the RFC 3580 Calling-Station-Id definition would apply to WiMAX. 

Are there reasons why this would not be the case?