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RE: Is the advertisement (IGP) of available BW at each pre-emptio n le vel is a DS-TE- requirement ?



Neil,

At 23:05 13/11/2001 +0000, neil.2.harrison@bt.com wrote:
Francois,  I don't think its that simple.

Let me clarify :
The two scenarios below were just meant to be simple examples of what an SP may want to do. It is not meant to restrict other scenarios in any way. Text will be adjusted to make it clear that those are just examples.


2nd, largest BW packing of 'path entities' is the most efficient way to do things if all path entities have the same survivability attribute.  I can imagine a case of large(r) L-LSP carrying BE traffic and a small(er) E-LSP carrying VPN traffic.......if I have an availability SLA to meet for the VPN LSP, then irrespective of the size of the BE LSP I ought to restore the VPN traffic before I even consider the BE traffic.

Perhaps, we could add a 3rd example based on your above scenario with something like this.

"Yet another Service Provider may elect to configure the following in order to (i) ensure that Premium Data LSPs are never driven away from their shortest path because of Best-Effort LSPs while (ii) optimize global network resource utilization by favoring placement of large LSPs first:
-       all large size Premium Data LSPs to preemption priority 0
-       all small size Premium Data LSPs to preemption priority 1
-       all large size Best-Effort LSPs to preemption priority 2
-       all small size Best-Effort LSPs to preemption priority 3"

Is that in line with the scenario you described?

Thanks for your input

Francois


 
regards, Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: Francois Le Faucheur [mailto:flefauch@cisco.com]
Sent: 13 November 2001 12:56
To: Choudhury, Sanjaya; Jim Boyle
Cc: te-wg
Subject: Re: Is the advertisement (IGP) of available BW at each pre-emption le vel is a DS-TE- requirement ?

Choudhury,

At 20:17 09/11/2001 -0500, Jim Boyle wrote:

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Choudhury, Sanjaya wrote:

>       Q3. In a DiffServ TE domain, where the network administrator
>       initiates the creation the TE tunnels (using MPLS-TE-MIB ),
>       when/how can he take advantage of the following pre-emption
>       scheme:
>               a) Preemption within the same DiffServ traffic class
>               b) Preemption across different DiffServ traffic classes

I'm not sure how people use the MPLS-TE-MIB to setup TE tunnels, so I
can't help you there.  I think you mean class-type above, so again, that
is a specific proposal.

I am not sure I fully get the question (in particular I don't see the relationship with the fact that you set up tunnels using MIB or not), but let me quote some draft text from teh drafts we're working on as it may help:

"
First, a Service Provider using two Class-Types (one for Voice and one for Data), may elect to configure the following to ensure that Voice LSPs are never driven away from their shortest path because of Data LSPs:
        -all Voice LSPs to preemption priority 0
        -all Data LSPs to preemption priority 1

Another Service Provider may elect to configure the following in order to optimize global network resource utilization by favoring placement of large LSPs first:
-       all large size Voice LSPs to preemption priority 0
-       all large size Data LSPs to preemption priority 1
-       all small size Voice LSPs to preemption priority 2
-       all small size Data LSPs to preemption priority 3
"

Note that this is based on the observation that, today, a common use for preemption is to give higher preemption to large LSPs in order to get better global utilisation. You get a much better network utilisation by fitting big things first and then small ones (just like filling up the boot of the family car when going away on holidays, really).


Hope that helps.

Francois

>
>       Thanks,
>       sanjay
>
>

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_________________________________________________________
Francois Le Faucheur  
Development Engineer, IOS Layer 3 Services
Cisco Systems
Office Phone:          +33 4 97 23 26 19
Mobile :               +33 6 89 108 159
Fax:                   +33 4 97 23 26 26
Email:                 flefauch@cisco.com
_________________________________________________________
Cisco Systems
Domaine Green Side
400, Avenue de Roumanille
06 410  Biot - Sophia Antipolis
FRANCE
_________________________________________________________