RE: 6to4 usage scenarios

[Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>]

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Bound, Jim wrote:
> It should be used as Brian stated and with the intention brian stated.
> This is a gigantic rathole with no need to be here.

Do you have an idea what to use instead of 6to4 for smaller deployments?

Tunnel brokers are a possibility, about the only one I think.  But those 
require more configuration and aren't really that commonplace today 
either.


> > -----Original Message----- From: Pekka Savola
> > [mailto:pekkas@netcore.fi] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:14 PM
> > To: v6ops@ops.ietf.org Subject: 6to4 usage scenarios
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > It seems like the 6to4 security discussion degenerated into 
> > argument on 
> > how it was meant to be used.
> > 
> > There are two basic models of connecting 6to4 routers to relays:
> > 
> > 1) simple static route to your relay
> > 2) BGP sessions to your relay and all the other relays where 
> > you want to 
> > receive native IPv6 packets from
> > 
> > I know of _no_ deployments of 2) even though Brian insists on 
> > that being the only "real" 6to4 usage scenario.  Does anyone 
> > know this being used?
> > 
> > If not, I think we must acknowledge that 2) is not really 
> > right-tool-for-the-job (think of 6over4 **), and that 1) is 
> > the primary
> > (only?) applicability target of 6to4.
> > 
> > The alternative is that we have gaping holes in Home/SOHO and 
> > partially 
> > maybe enterprise transition scenarios, and nothing to fill 
> > them at the 
> > moment.
> > 
> > **) 6over4 is a nice technique, and we could even use it -- 
> > but we don't 
> > want stuff like that.  The same IMO applies to 6to4+BGP.  
> > There is no use 
> > specifying mechanisms for the audience who does not want them.
> > 
> > P.S. I only came to the wg after 6to4 had just gone RFC, this 
> > internal bickering really took me off surprise and made me 
> > both frustrated and angry about refusing to accept the reality.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
> > Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
> > Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords
> > 
> > 
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-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords