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RE: IPv6 Home Use to stimulate deployment over IPv4-NAT



Good.  I am trying to access the CTOs of two of the largest home provider routers now, and internationally.  I am getting help from some industry leaders to set up a discussion to hear feasibility of this.  It could be we can use the tunnel broker we have specified now and just go do it.  I don't want to spend 3 years here discussing it. We can refine it here but maybe as Tony stated it is not a standards issue and I am not sure yet? I think Alain's point and my problem now of to much work for the home clients has to be resolved.

/jim

 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio F. Gómez Skarmeta [mailto:skarmeta@dif.um.es] 
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 11:53 AM
> To: Alain Durand
> Cc: Bound, Jim; alh-ietf@tndh.net; v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: IPv6 Home Use to stimulate deployment over IPv4-NAT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Alain Durand wrote:
> 
> > Jim,
> >
> > I like your idea. A lot.
> > the issue I have with solution like teredo is that they are 
> initiated 
> > by the end nodes. The implications are:
> > 1- all end node needs to understand this protocol
> > 2- it becomes difficult for the acess router/firewall
> >   to enfore any kind of policy on what traffic is acceptable
> >   A knob that says 'enable IPv6' is just not enough.
> >   We need solutions that enable the user to express easily the same
> >   security policy in v4 and v6.
> 
> 
> 
>   I will also like this idea.
> 
> >
> >
> > Those are the reasons why I think that 'IPv6 connectivity' is a 
> > functionality that has to be provided by an access router 
> and not by 
> > the end hosts. .
> > Now, as it has been pointed out, this is a typical case
> > where the access router is a client to a tunnel broker.
> > The question is what can we do to simplify the tunnel
> > set-up from the router to the tunnel broker.
> > If we decide to go that route, a tunnel set up protocol
> > like the one Marc Blanchet was suggesting now become
> > a interesting solution
> 
> 
> 
>   This was something we have been looking within projects 
> like Euro6IX 
> and the idea of a set up protocol and an easy to manage tunnel-broker 
> solution will be really valuable and I think we will be interested in 
> collaborate
> 
> 
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