RE: IPv6 Home Use to stimulate deployment over IPv4-NAT

["Bound, Jim" <Jim.Bound@hp.com>]

I thought I had same problem as Erik but I just got proto 41 through.
But I put a box in front of the cable dsl router. As note.  But it
breaks still :--)
/jim

 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Timmins [mailto:paul@timmins.net] 
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:56 AM
> To: Erik Nordmark
> Cc: Jeroen Massar; Bound, Jim; 'JORDI PALET MARTINEZ'; 
> v6ops@ops.ietf.org; 'Alain Durand'; alh-ietf@tndh.net
> Subject: RE: IPv6 Home Use to stimulate deployment over IPv4-NAT
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 10:29, Erik Nordmark wrote:
> > That's nice for those that have control of the NAT box.
> > The Telco that provides me service at home provides me with 
> a NAT box 
> > that they control - and they are uninterested in doing anything 
> > special. I can't bypass/replace the NAT box because it 
> speaks some odd 
> > and probably proprietary stuff on the other side (it's an 
> ISDN line).
> > 
> > So I prefer solutions that don't have to rely on 
> configuration in the 
> > NAT box yet are simpler than Teredo.
> 
> I agree here as well. I've seen -alot- of firewalls that 
> either block, or don't statefully forward proto-41. Even if 
> they did, that limits IPv6 to one end user behind the NAT. If 
> I was using this at a Mariott for example, they NAT the users 
> of their in room ethernet. I'd be disappointed if someone 
> else was using v6 tunneling in the hotel, because it means I 
> couldn't (Assuming they forward proto-41 to begin with). With 
> UDP tunneling, we could both have our own tunnels. I think a 
> limitation on how many machines behind a NAT can have a 
> tunnel would slow transition in places like this, because if 
> I were offering enterprise services over v6, and had my 
> employees tunneling back to the office, I'd be pretty upset 
> if they couldn't get their job done because another employee 
> (or just another user, depending on the proto-41 forwarding 
> implementation) has a tunnel open at the hotel at the same time.
> 
> My 0.02.
> -Paul
> 
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