RE: What is a site (Re: draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt)

["Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>]

In 'draft-templin-autoconf-dhcp-08.txt', I define site as:

   "Mobile Ad-hoc Network (MANET)
      a connected network region of MANET routers that maintain a
      routing structure among themselves over MANET interfaces.  A MANET
      may be as large as an Autonomous System (AS) or as small as a
      single MANET router, and may also be a subnetwork of a larger
      MANET.  A MANET router (and its attached networks) is a "site"
      unto itself, and a MANET is therefore a "site-of-sites".  (Note
      that this document considers the terms "MANET" and "site" as
      functional equivalents.)"

Thanks - Fred
fred.l.templin@boeing.com 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeroen Massar [mailto:jeroen@unfix.org] 
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:41 AM
> To: Paul Vixie
> Cc: IETF Ops; ipv6@ietf.org
> Subject: What is a site (Re: draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt)
> 
> [cross cc'd to v6ops as this sounds more like a ops thing]
> 
> Paul Vixie wrote:
> >>>>> A site is a network of computers with a single 
> administration, ...
> > 
> >>>> Where has the IETF redefined the meaning of the word "site"? ...
> > 
> >>> This has been a longstanding problem in the IETF; in 
> fact, the inability
> >>> to agree on what "site" means was one of the reasons SLAs were ...
> > 
> >> why does it mather if it is physical site, administrative 
> domain ...
> > 
> > indeed, from the rfc that was quoted at me when i asked 
> about this a month
> > ago, it appears that "site" is meant as "usually the same 
> thing as an
> > autonomous system but can mean something else if you want it to."
> 
> From what I understand at least RIPE NCC is using the meaning 
> along the
> lines of "A network with the same administrative domain confined to a
> single or a group of buildings".
> 
> As such a site could be (amongst others):
>  - a host in a datacenter which provides VPN's to other sites
>    over its own link.
>  - a home network, eg where a DSL or cable line or a PPP link 
> terminates
>  - an office in a home network where a VPN/PPP/DSL terminates
>  - a big office complex, where the network is run by an admin group
>    who have an incoming 1Gbit/s link
>  - multiple buildings around a city/country/world all linked
>    together with VPN using one single /48, but eg a /56 per building.
> 
> And various other cases. Note that I add the way the network gets
> connected to the rest of the world. Of course there are cases 
> where one
> does not link up to the Internet or even to other sites.
> 
> I am pretty sure that the various RIR's are well known enough with a
> definition that they handle consistently in their region, which in one
> way or the other most likely matches the above.
> 
> Maybe somebody should write a mini-RFC labeled "What is a site" and
> include some examples to show exactly how/what? Guess it would fit in
> perfectly for the v6ops WG (cross cc'd for that purpose).
> 
> Greets,
>  Jeroen
> 
>