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Re: v6-v4 transition scenarios, take 1



Pekka Savola writes:
4. Nearing 2015, ISP wants to ensure its users can reach all the
 services in Internet, and deploys a v4-to-v6 NAT
Is it a given that NAT is the appropriate option in this case? 

Many protocols support proxies, where the name-to-address translation 
happens at the proxy so if the proxy supports IPv6, the client doesn't 
have to. 

(I don't think it's a good idea to mention dates, though. It's only 
recently that people have stopped whining "you IETF guys said we'd be out 
of IPv6 addresses by 2005 and it didn't happen".)
Maybe I should have used s/NAT/translator/, that was certainly the intent. 
 However, in practise given that the intent is to support weird v4 hosts 
and apps in "end-game" situation, it seems improbable that an app-specific 
proxying would be enough. 

Wrt dates, I wanted to emphasize that this won't be happening any time 
soon.
Given the rate that Operating systems are being forced on end users, what is 
the likelihood that non-dual stack systems will be very common by that 
point? I can see a need to take v6 customers to v4 servers, but I do not 
expect that you will have a large percent of users on v4 only hardware or 
operating systems 7 years from now. Now you may have v4 only ISPs or other 
businesses providing services but that is a different issue. 

I expect once the IPv6 ball gets rolling people will start turning off IPv4 surprisingly fast.
Personally I doubt it -- a lot.  Or we have a different things in mind 
when we talk about "IPv6 ball gets rolling". 

I wouldn't turn off v4 on any service I have association with until at 
least 90% and hopefully more than 99% of the user base (or potential user 
base) could reach it.
This makes senses 

Eric