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Re: draft-jiang-incremental-CGN-00
Dan,
We're describing a scenario. Obviously, there are other similar
scenarios. That's
why v6ops seems like the obvious place for a first discussion, imho.
Brian
On 3/6/09, Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> > [mailto:owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sheng Jiang
> > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:29 AM
> > To: 'Fred Baker'
> > Cc: 'IPv6 Operations'; 'Brian Carpenter'
> > Subject: RE: Agenda issue
> >
> > For sure. We know the draft name rules. When we wrote the
> > draft, we were not sure
> > which WG it should be submitted. It seems relevant to both
> > v6ops and behave.
>
> As a BEHAVE co-chair, I haven't seen a request for agenda time
> for draft-jiang-incremental-CGN-00, nor any discussion about the
> draft on the BEHAVE mailing list.
>
> > We can fix it in 01 version by putting v6ops into the draft name.
>
> Renaming a draft starts it at -00.
>
>
> Anyway, regarding your draft: it says that the CGN has to terminate
> the 6-over-4 tunnel. Couldn't some other device -- not necessarily
> the CGN -- terminate that tunnel? If so, then I believe your
> proposal is very much just a NAT44 ("CGN") and a 6-over-4 tunnel
> from the in-home gateway to some device that terminates the
> tunnel and has IPv6 Internet connectivity. This tunnel concentrator
> might belong to the ISP providing IPv4 service, but it might also be
> offered by someone else on the Internet (as a separate service), in
> which case the 6-over-4 tunnel might actually go *across* the
> service provider's NAT44 ("CGN").
>
> -d
>
>
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Sheng
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Fred Baker [mailto:fred@cisco.com]
> > >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:55 PM
> > >To: Sheng Jiang
> > >Cc: 'IPv6 Operations'; 'Brian Carpenter'
> > >Subject: Re: Agenda issue
> > >
> > >OK. I truly wish you had put the working group moniker in the
> > >draft name (individual submission to a named working group),
> > >as it is hard to keep track of work in a working group with
> > >individual submission names.
> > >
> > >On Mar 4, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Sheng Jiang wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi, Fred,
> > >>
> > >> We have submitted a new draft,
> > >draft-jiang-incremental-CGN-00. I think
> > >> we are already on the vows agenda. Are we? If no yet, please
> > >count us
> > >> in.
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Sheng
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> > >>> [mailto:owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fred Baker
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:16 AM
> > >>> To: IPv6 Operations
> > >>> Subject: Agenda issue
> > >>>
> > >>> I have gotten a number of folks asking for time on the
> > >agenda, but I
> > >>> have a problem:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 19268 Sep 10 05:33 draft-ietf-v6ops-ra-
> > >>> guard-01.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 61870 Sep 29 08:52 draft-miyata-v6ops-
> > >>> snatpt-02.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 48468 Oct 1 10:58 draft-endo-v6ops-
> > >>> dnsproxy-01.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 43841 Oct 15 10:48 draft-ietf-v6ops-
> > >>> tunnel-
> > >>> security-concerns-
> > >>> 01.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 18562 Oct 15 10:48
> > draft-krishnan-v6ops-
> > >>> teredo-update-04.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 53090 Oct 30 10:22
> > >draft-wbeebee-ipv6-cpe-
> > >>> router-03.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 36662 Nov 3 10:15
> > >draft-bajko-v6ops-port-
> > >>> restricted-ipaddr-a
> > >>> ssign-02.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 48973 Nov 3 11:06
> > draft-luo-v6ops-6man-
> > >>> shim6-lbam-00.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 30429 Nov 3 14:26 draft-chown-v6ops-
> > >>> rogue-
> > >>> ra-02.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 134587 Nov 3 16:14
> > >>> draft-thaler-v6ops- teredo-extensions-02.tx t
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 16462 Feb 17 14:52
> > draft-rgaglian-v6ops-
> > >>> v6inixp-01.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 9716 Feb 18 08:01
> > draft-denis-v6ops-nat-
> > >>> addrsel-00.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 41369 Feb 23 22:05 draft-bnss-v6ops-
> > >>> upnp-00.txt
> > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 19211 Mar 4 14:11
> > >draft-vyncke-vdv-v6ops-
> > >>> conf-stats-00.txt
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I see four new drafts post-Minneapolis. The Rogue RA and Teredo
> > >>> drafts, whose last call completed several months ago and
> > >the write-up
> > >>> is awaiting new drafts, don't have new drafts.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello? Anyone out there? I need new drafts (cut-off date
> > is Friday)
> > >>> for anything folks expect to discuss in the WG meeting...
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>