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RE: draft-wbeebee-ipv6-cpe-router-04 comments



Title: Re: draft-wbeebee-ipv6-cpe-router-04 comments

You don’t think that AT&T the DSL SP will know what AT&T wireless might be doing with a device that’s connected to AT&T the application service provider? J Oh ye of little faith. Have you never seen the movie “The President’s Analyst”?

 

But no, in the case you describe, the cellular network that provides this iPhone with 3G connectivity would need to send route info in its RA, specifying the prefixes of its walled garden, to the iPhone. If the DSL connection is just a plain vanilla connection, there would be no route info coming at the iPhone from its Wi-Fi interface. The DSL provider doesn’t need to know about the 3G connection – only the iPhone knows.

Barbara

 

From: Hemant Singh (shemant) [mailto:shemant@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 4:59 PM
To: Stark, Barbara; Wes Beebee (wbeebee); jhw@apple.com; v6ops@ops.ietf.org
Subject: RE: draft-wbeebee-ipv6-cpe-router-04 comments

 

Barbara,

 

You are also asking for the impossible.   As a cable or DSL SP, you don’t know what the IPv6 prefix my IPhone from AT&T is using for the cellular network?  So how can any MSR be devised and propagated from the SP router serving the broadband modem in the home to send an MSR for a prefix not known to them? 

 

Our new text is fine.

 

Hemant

 

From: Stark, Barbara [mailto:bs7652@att.com]
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 4:44 PM
To: Wes Beebee (wbeebee); jhw@apple.com; v6ops@ops.ietf.org
Cc: Hemant Singh (shemant)
Subject: Re: draft-wbeebee-ipv6-cpe-router-04 comments

 

It's not clear to me why manual configuration is specified as *the* way to configure these routes (again, I see RA (RFC 4191) from the access network to the CPE Rtr WAN interface as a way to configure the routes). I propose that if a CPE Rtr gets such routes from the WAN that it automatically put those same route prefixes in its LAN RAs. In which case it would not be off by default, but on by default (it would automatically send specific route info if it has specific route info to send).
Barbara

----- Original Message -----
From: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org <owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org>
To: james woodyatt <jhw@apple.com>; IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ops.ietf.org>
Cc: Hemant Singh (shemant) <shemant@cisco.com>
Sent: Fri Mar 27 15:40:09 2009
Subject: RE: draft-wbeebee-ipv6-cpe-router-04 comments

The new text for MSR's is as follows:

"8.7 Multi-homed Host Support (MEDIUM)
The CPE Router MAY support RFC4191 on its LAN interfaces.  Small
consumer embedded multi-homed hosts in the home may not have
configurable routing tables.  The CPE Router can communicate More
Specific Routes (MSRs) to these hosts to allow them to choose a
preferred router to send traffic to for traffic destined to specific
prefixes configured through manual configuration.  Advertisement of MSRs
through RAs is turned off by default."

- Wes

-----Original Message-----
From: james woodyatt [mailto:jhw@apple.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:17 PM
To: IPv6 Operations
Cc: Hemant Singh (shemant); Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
Subject: Re: draft-wbeebee-ipv6-cpe-router-04 comments

On Mar 25, 2009, at 16:06, james woodyatt wrote:
>
> Please let me clarify my remarks and narrow my request somewhat, now
> that I've had a chance to review more of the CPE Router draft.  I am
> only interested in such RFC 4191 messages when a valid PIO has been
> received on the WAN link with L=1.  No other cases are interesting.

I take it back.  It's interesting in the other cases as well.  Two CPE
routers attached to the same link will exchange their prefixes with MSR
advertisements regardless of whether the RAs from the service provider
have PIO options in them.  As they should.


--
james woodyatt <jhw@apple.com>
member of technical staff, communications engineering

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