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Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-04 WGLC



On Apr 28, 2009, at 07:52, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
teemu.savolainen@nokia.com wrote:
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From: ext Dan Wing [mailto:dwing@cisco.com]
Sent: 24 April, 2009 21:01

I wonder why the minimum time could not be longer for IPv6? The longer the time the less need to activate radio for keep-alive sending (on either side of the firewall btw - consider a case where CPE has wireless WAN). In CGN case short timeout is understandable due need to save public ports,

Having multiple assumed possibilities for timeouts means as an application developer you can only use the lowest one, at least if you want your stuff to work.

All true. I copied the two-minute timer from RFC 4787 on the general idea that duplicating the filtering behavior of IPv4 NAT is the basic frame of what we're doing.

Two hours seems a long time to leave your door open.

True, but my main intent was to ask why the 2 minutes time period was chosen, and not e.g. 100% longer of four minutes.

I agree that a longer DEFAULT timeout for IPv6 state records may be more reasonable given that we don't have a port conservation problem caused by address amplification. I have no problem with four minutes. Longer than that, however, and I would object. Two hours is just completely out of the question for a connectionless transport.

So, can the working group give me a more reasonable number to use in the -06 revision I'm composing today? Otherwise, I'll just increase it from two to four minutes, and we'll revisit in -07 if necessary.


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