Re: [iesg-secretary #5718] WG Review: Problem Statement (problem)

["Jacqueline Hargest" <jhargest@foretec.com>]

Your request #5718 was resolved by jhargest:

IESG: FYI

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>From: "Glen Zorn" <gwz@cisco.com>
>To: "'The IESG'" <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>, <IETF-Announce:@cisco.com>
>Subject: RE: WG Review: Problem Statement (problem)

> A new IETF working group has been proposed in the General Area.  The 
> IESG has not made any determination as yet.  
> 
> The following description was submitted, and is provided 
> for informational purposes only.
> 
> 
> Problem Statement (problem)
> ---------------------------
> 
> Current Status: Active Proposed Working Group
> 
>  
> Description of Working Group:
> 
> Discussions during 2002 have revealed a significant number of 
> thoughts about problems that exist with the way the IETF 
> operates. In advance of trying to change the IETF procedures 
> and rules to deal with these problems, the IETF should have a 
> clear, agreed description of what problems we are trying to solve.

Good idea.

> 
> This group is charged with producing the document describing 
> these problems. The analysis of the problem should seek out 
> the root causes 
> of the problems as well as the perceived derivative problems.
> 
> The intent is that the group will discuss issues on its 
> mailing list, and that there will be an editing team to 
> produce a clear concise problem statement on which the group 
> has come to consensus and present to the IETF as a basis for 
> an IETF consensus.
> 
> As a second work item, the group will also produce a proposal 
> for a process to develop solutions to the problems identified 
> by this working group.

Since one of the major problems already identified is the ability and
willingness of both individual ADs and the IESG as a whole to ignore
clear WG consensus, it is difficult to see how this proposed WG could
perform its function.

> 
> It is not a part of this group's charter to propose solutions 
> to the problems.
> 
> The work items will be reviewed in IESG plenary at the IETF.
> 
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