At this time, it is very improbable that I can be in San Francisco. My wife is laid up with a herniated disk, and is likely to be flat on her back for several weeks. Given that she can't even be on her feet long enough to prepare meals, let alone go shopping, someone has to be here full-time. I'll hold my reservations until the last minute, but I do not expect to attend. Harald, I'm available to dial in Sunday or any breakfast except (possibly) Thursday. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb (me) http://www.wilyhacker.com (2nd edition of "Firewalls" book)