RE: Proposed resolution of the AD-shepherded info/experimental non-WG document issue

["Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>]

Thomas,
I like Harald's original text much better than yours.
The reason is that in your text it looks to me as if individuals
are encouraged to try the path via the AD (which will put extra
load on us and require us to say NO more often). The text in
Harald's proposal leaves the initiative to the AD. Such could
be his initiative after an individual has asked him... but I 
think it protects us much better from DoS attacks.

Thanks,
Bert 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Narten [mailto:narten@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: woensdag 9 april 2003 1:02
> To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand
> Cc: iesg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Proposed resolution of the AD-shepherded 
> info/experimental
> non-WG document issue 
> 
> 
> > >> 	    When an AD decides that an Informational or
> > >>             Experimental document is of particular 
> importance to the
> > >>             community, the AD may also choose to put it directly
> > >>             before the IESG. This document will then be 
> processed in
> > >>             the same fashion as an Informational or Experimental
> > >>             document from a working group.
> 
> For many of the documents I shepherd, I'd have a hard time saying
> (even after the AD review) that they are of "particular importance to
> the community". So, am I not supposed to put those documents 
> before the
> IESG? :-)
> 
> Note: a document can enter the IESG via an AD adding the document to
> ID Tracker and putting it in "publication requested" state. In my
> mind, this is not unlike a document coming in via an RFC editor
> request.
> 
> But I suspect that we don't have an RFC that exactly describes that
> situation.
> 
> How about this  for a wording suggestion:
> 
>     In some cases, an individual will ask an AD directly if they are
>     willing to shepherd a document through the IESG. This can happen,
>     for example, when an individual has already been discussing a
>     particular document with an AD because the topic of the document
>     naturally falls into a particular area. In such cases, the
>     document is processed in the same fashion as an Informational or
>     Experimental document from a working group.
> 
> Thomas
>