In message <E1969WX-0000Lp-La@ran.psg.com>, Randy Bush writes: >the chat is at 08:30 local. i have an 07:00 dental appt. i should >be close to on time, but i may be damaged. > Dentists are bad enough, but at 7:00 am? Yuck. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb (me) http://www.wilyhacker.com (2nd edition of "Firewalls" book)