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Agenda, version 1



I suspect that there won't be any version 2 before I leave home.... but here it is.
Same URL as before: http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/iesg/retreat-2003/agenda.html

IESG Retreat Agenda

Version April 25, 15:45 CET

April 29-30, 2003 - Wye River, near Washington DC

Dinner available at 2000 on April 28 for those who are arriving then.

Tuesday


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| 0900-0945 | Welcome, agenda bashing | Harald |
| | IESG overview - the IESG charter | |

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| 0945-1015 | The Larger Picture - the context of | Leslie |
| | the IETF universe | |

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| 1015-1030 | Break | |

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| 1030-1100 | Strategy in dealing with others: | Thomas? |
| | IEEE, Radius and 802.11x | |

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| 1100-1130 | Strategy in dealing with ourselves: | Ted? |
| | The IM story | |

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| 1130-1230 | Lunch | |

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| | Working group management | |
| | - When should we charter a WG? | |
| | - Why do WGs stay on track? Why do | |
| | they stray from it? | Harald |
| 1230-1315 | - How do we deal with disruptive | Background material: |
| | people? | RFC 2418 |
| | - What are our tools to get | |
| | cross-area review/input? | |
| | - What are the conditions under | |
| | which WGs are better off closed? | |

|-----------+-------------------------------------+----------------------|
| | Document Review: What's the IETF | |
| | process that gets the right | |
| | documents done? (and what are the | |
| | right documents, anyway?) | |
| | | |
| | How do we get documents reviewed at | |
| | an early stage (input into WG)? | |
| | How do we deal with the cases where | |
| | a WG chair doesn't feel that he's | |
| | in charge of quality control? | |
| 1315-1400 | | Harald |
| | What are the consequences of having | |
| | the "individual via RFC Editor" | |
| | path, and how/when should we push | |
| | back on that using the "bypass" | |
| | flag? | |
| | | |
| | Possible results: | |
| | - Changes to procedures | |
| | - Efforts to get more people to | |
| | review on our behalf | |

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| 1400-1415 | Break | |

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| | The AD-Nits checklist: Classifying | |
| | into "essential" and "nice to have" | |
| | (if any) | |
| | Determining that we'll stop | |
| | anything on the "essential" list. | |
| | What does using "MUST" in an | |
| 1415-1515 | Informational document mean? | Bert? |
| | Who checks what nits? Coordination | |
| | with the RFC Editor | |
| | | |
| | Results: | |
| | - Revised checklist | |
| | - Changes to procedures | |

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| 1515-1530 | Break | |

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| | Technological support: What can the | |
| 1530-1615 | secretariat do for us? | Barbara |
| | Presentation of plans - thoughts on | |
| | priorities / feedback | |

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| | Advancing in grade: Why, How and | |
| | Who? | |
| | - What are the theoretical criteria | |
| | for advancing to Draft? Full? | Harald |
| 1615-1715 | - What are the criteria in | Background material: |
| | practice? | RFC 2026 |
| | - What is the benefit of advancing? | |
| | The onus of not advancing? | |
| | - Should we reincarnate the "expire | |
| | in grade" rules? Or kill them? | |

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| 1715-1730 | Wrapup for the day, conclusions, | |
| | modifications for tomorrow's agenda | |

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| 1730-1900 | Some time to take a walk, a beer or | |
| | a small-group discussion | |

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| 1900 | Dinner | |

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Wednesday


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| | The Evolution of the IETF | |
| | - What are the essential properties of | |
| | the IETF we need to preserve? | |
| | - What do we want to see changed when | |
| 0900-1000 | "the process" finishes? | Harald, Leslie |
| | - What should we just go ahead and | |
| | change off the bat? | |
| | - What do we need to change in our | |
| | external relations? | |

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| 1000-1015 | Break | |

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| | Specific topic: Certificates and LDAP | |
| | Result: General orientation, specific | |
| | advice | |
| 1015-1115 | (we could do this split-group and have | Russ, Ted |
| | another topic such as GMPLS and | |
| | addressing - but the set of interested | |
| | people overlaps!) | |

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| 1130-1230 | Lunch | |

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| 1230-1500 | Telechat | note 1 hour delay |

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| 1500-1530 | Break | |

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| | This section intentionally left blank | |
| 1530-1630 | (we will surely find one topic that we | |
| | have forgotten) | |

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| | Wrapup session | |
| | - What, at a strategy level, does the | |
| | IESG need to do? | |
| 1630-1800 | - What specific problems do we need to | |
| | solve "now"? | |
| | - What do we need to do between now | |
| | and Vienna? | |

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| 1800-1900 | Take a deep breath...... | |

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| 1900 | Dinner | |

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