RE: Last Call: WebDAV Ordered Collections Protocol to ProposedStandard

[Geoffrey M Clemm <geoffrey.clemm@us.ibm.com>]

I agree that server-side ordering should be deferred to a subsequent
release of the ordering protocol.  If Chris identifies anything in the
current ordering protocol that would conflict with server-side orderings,
he should raise that as an issue ASAP.

Cheers,
Geoff

w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org wrote on 06/09/2003 12:44:11 PM:

> 
> Chris,
> 
> You are right -- the last call draft doesn't try to specify server
> maintained orderings. Looking at your draft, it seems to apply to
> server-side sorting, which may have it's place in WebDAV SEARCH [1]. 
Note
> that the plan for WebDAV SEARCH is to make use of collations as defined 
in
> XSLT 2.0 and XQuery, once they become ready. So you may want to check 
how
> your work fits into that framework as well.
> 
> As far as I understand, there's currently nobody working actively on 
WebDAV
> ordered collections with server-maintained orderings. So I don't think 
it's
> a good idea to delay publication of this work to cover something nobody
> currently is interested in.
> 
> Regards, Julian
> 
> 
> [1]
> 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-reschke-webdav-search-latest.html>
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Newman [mailto:Chris.Newman@Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 4:13 AM
> > To: iesg@ietf.org
> > Cc: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; julian.reschke@greenbytes.de; 
ejw@cse.ucsc.edu
> > Subject: Re: Last Call: WebDAV Ordered Collections Protocol to 
Proposed
> > Standard
> >
> >
> > I wrote a draft which attempts to create a framework for
> > server-side ordering
> > that can be consumed by multiple IETF protocols:
> >
> > 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-newman-i18n-comparator-00.txt
> >
> > I request that an expert in the webdav community review my draft
> > to make sure
> > that is compatible with the webdav ordering draft.  From a brief
> > skim of the
> > webdav ordering draft it appears it has left "server-maintained"
> > ordering as a
> > future work item, so I expect no problems.  However, it would be a 
good
> > validation of the webdav ordering extensibility model to confirm it is
> > compatible.
> >
> > It is possible the webdav ordering draft could support 
server-maintained
> > ordering through a relatively minor revision to reference my
> > draft.  While that
> > would undoubtedly cause some delay in final publication, it may be 
worth
> > consideration by the working group.
> >
> >                 - Chris
> >
> > begin quotation by The IESG on 2003/6/5 18:24 -0400:
> >
> > >
> > > The IESG has received a request from the WWW Distributed Authoring
> > > and Versioning Working Group to consider WebDAV Ordered Collections
> > > Protocol <draft-ietf-webdav-ordering-protocol-08.txt> as a Proposed
> > > Standard.
> > >
> > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and 
solicits
> > > final comments on this action.  Please send any comments to the
> > > iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2003-6-19.
> > >
> > > Files can be obtained via
> > >
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-webdav-ordering-pro
> > tocol-08.txt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >