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DRAFT Minutes of the July 10, 2003 IESG Teleconference
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the July 10, 2003 IESG Teleconference
Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat
ATTENDEES
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Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
Randy Bush / IIJ
Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
Bill Fenner / AT&T
Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
Erik Nordmark / Sun
Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
Bert Wijnen / Lucent
Alex Zinin / Alcatel
Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
REGRETS
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Marcia Beaulieu / IETF Secretariat
Michelle Cotton / ICANN
Jacqueline Hargest / IETF Secretariat
Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes
The minutes of the June 26, 2003 Teleconference were approved
pending removal of the "Web notes." The Secretariat will place
the minutes in the public archives.
1.2 Review of Action Items
DONE:
o Harald Alvestrand to talk to RFC Editor about independent
submissions.
o Thomas Narten to coordinate and send comments on minutes
to the Secretariat. IESG to review the format of the minutes
and propose changes to improve readability and communication
to the outside world.
o Steve Bellovin to make proposal to discuss "problem" at the
Sunday IESG meeting in Vienna.
o Thomas Narten to write up issue with references in
draft-dasilva-l2tp-relaysvc-06.txt and start discussion in
IESG list.
DELETED:
NONE
IN PROGRESS:
o Allison to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs and send
decision to IESG.
o Bert to document process of how the IESG goes about asking architectural
questions of the IAB.
o Thomas to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to
Draft."
o Thomas to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB.
o Steve to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
o Randy and Ned to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards Track Documents
may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level.
o Alex to send proposal and justification for interim document review.
o Steve to propose a different document classification than the current
info/proposed/etc.
o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorates and IAB
on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed IESG consensus
regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN working group.
NEW:
o Ted to send the Secretariat a message to forward to the RFC Editor
indicating that the Do Not Publish note that was originally created for
draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt also applies to draft-paskin-doi-uri-04.txt.
2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-atommib-atm2-19.txt - 1 of 10
Definitions of Supplemental Managed Objects for ATM Interface (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Nordmark, Erik
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Erik Nordmark. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.
o draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-10.txt - 2 of 10
Information Model for Describing Network Device QoS Datapath Mechanisms
(Proposed Standard)
Token: Wijnen, Bert
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Allison Mankin.*
o draft-ietf-policy-qos-info-model-05.txt - 3 of 10
Policy QoS Information Model (Proposed Standard)
Token: Wijnen, Bert
The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Steve Bellovin.
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley.*
o draft-ietf-sip-sctp-03.txt - 4 of 10
The Stream Control Transmission Protocol as a Transport for for the
Session Initiation Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ned Freed, and Ted Hardie.*
o Set of two documents - 5 of 10
- draft-ietf-ips-fcip-slp-07.txt
Finding FCIP Entities Using SLPv2 (Proposed Standard)
- draft-ietf-ips-isci-slp-06.txt
Finding iSCSI Targets and Name Servers Using SLP (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The documents were deferred to the next teleconference by Thomas Narten.
The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.*
o draft-ietf-sipping-3pcc-04.txt - 6 of 10
Best Current Practices for Third Party Call Control in the Session
Initiation Protocol (BCP)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Steve Bellovin.
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley and Erik Nordmark.*
o draft-ietf-dnsext-rfc1886bis-03.txt - 7 of 10
DNS Extensions to support IP version 6 (Draft Standard)
Token: Nordmark, Erik
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Erik Nordmark. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.
o draft-ietf-ospf-hitless-restart-07.txt - 8 of 10
Graceful OSPF Restart (Proposed Standard)
Token: Zinin, Alex
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ted Hardie.*
o draft-ietf-webdav-ordering-protocol-09.txt - 9 of 10
WebDAV Ordered Collections Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Hardie, Ted
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Allison Mankin.*
o draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-report-extns-06.txt - 10 of 10
RTP Control Protocol Extended Reports (RTCP XR) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Jon Peterson and Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes
the RFC Editor Note.
2.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-dnsext-gss-tsig-06.txt - 1 of 7
GSS Algorithm for TSIG (GSS-TSIG) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Nordmark, Erik
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.
o draft-katz-yeung-ospf-traffic-10.txt - 2 of 7
Traffic Engineering Extensions to OSPF Version 2 (Proposed Standard)
Token: Fenner, Bill
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Thomas Narten and Thomas Narten on behalf of IANA.*
o draft-ietf-dnsext-ad-is-secure-06.txt - 3 of 7
Redefinition of DNS AD bit (Proposed Standard)
Token: Nordmark, Erik
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Erik Nordmark. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.
o draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt - 4 of 7
The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ted Hardie.*
o draft-ietf-sip-scvrtdisco-04.txt - 5 of 7
Session Initiation Protocol Extension Header Field for Service Route
Discovery During Registration (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Allison Mankin on behalf of IANA.*
o draft-ietf-magma-mld-source-07.txt - 6 of 7
Source Address Selection for Multicast Listener Discovery Protocol (RFC
2710) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Nordmark, Erik
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.
o draft-ietf-mobileip-mipv6-ha-ipsec-06.txt - 7 of 7
Using IPsec to Protect Mobile IPv6 Signaling between Mobile Nodes and
Home Agents (Proposed Standard)
Token: Narten, Thomas
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin and Randy Bush.*
2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
NONE
2.2.2 Returning Item
o draft-legg-ldapext-component-matching-11.txt - 1 of 1
LDAP & X.500 Component Matching Rules (Proposed Standard)
Token: Hardie, Ted
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.
3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-gsmp-reqs-06.txt - 1 of 3
Requirements For Adding Optical Support To GSMPv3 (Informational)
Token: Wijnen, Bert
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Allison Mankin and Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send
a working group submission Docuemt Action Announcement that includes the
RFC Editor Note.
o draft-ietf-sipping-3gpp-r5-requirements-00.txt - 2 of 3
3rd-Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) Release 5 requirements on the
Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Informational)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* Allison Mankin will
prepare a revised IESG Note.
o draft-ietf-manet-tbrpf-09.txt - 3 of 3
Topology Dissemination Based on Reverse-Path Forwarding (TBRPF)
(Experimental)
Token: Zinin, Alex
The document remains under discussion by the IESG to address
points raised by IANA.*
3.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-pkix-ipki-new-rfc2527-02.txt - 1 of 4
Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Certificate Policy and
Certification Practices Framework (Informational)
Token: Housley, Russ
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
a working group submission Document Action Announcement.
o draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-reqs-06.txt - 2 of 4
A One-way Active Measurement Protocol Requirements (Informational)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*
o draft-ietf-manet-olsr-11.txt - 3 of 4
Optimized Link State Routing Protocol (Experimental)
Token: Zinin, Alex
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.
o draft-ietf-crisp-requirements-05.txt - 4 of 4
Cross Registry Internet Service Protocol (CRISP) Requirements
(Informational)
Token: Freed, Ned
The Document remains under discussion by the IESG.*
3.2 Indiviual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
o draft-savola-ipv6-127-prefixlen-04.txt - 1 of 2
Use of /127 Prefix Length Between Routers Considered Harmful
(Informational)
Token: Bush, Randy
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
n individual submission Document Action Announcement.
o draft-siemborski-mupdate-04.txt - 2 of 2
The MUPDATE Distributed Mailbox Database Protocol (Experimental)
Token: Freed, Ned
The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Ted Hardie.
3.2.2 Returning Item
NONE
3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
o draft-song-pppext-sip-support-02.txt - 1 of 1
SIP server IPCP configuration option for PPP (Informational)
Token: Narten, Thomas
The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this
document. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message
prepared by Thomas Narten to the RFC Editor.
3.3.2 Returning Item
o Set of three documents - 1 of 3
- draft-sun-handle-system-11.txt
Handle System Overview (Informational)
- draft-sun-handle-system-def-08.txt
Handle System Namespace and Service Definition (Informational)
- draft-sun-handle-system-protocol-05.txt
Handle System Protocol (ver 2.1) Specification (Informational)
Token: Hardie, Ted
The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing these documents.
Ted Hardie will prepare a "no problem" message, and forward it to the
Secretariat to send to the RFC Editor.
o draft-bradner-pbk-frame-06.txt - 2 of 3
A Framework for Purpose-Built Keys (PBK) (Informational)
Token: Bellovin, Steve
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*
o draft-leech-chinese-lottery-04.txt - 3 of 3
Chinese Lottery Cryptanalysis Revisited: The Internet as Codebreaking
Tool (Informational)
Token: Bellovin, Steve
The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Steve
Bellovin.
4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
NONE
4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
NONE
4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
NONE
4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
NONE
5. Working Group News We Can Use
6. IAB News We Can Use
7. Management Issues
o Sunday's agenda (added by Harald Alvestrand)
- Is 1000-1400 enough time?
- Are the topics listed the most important ones?
(discussed)
o Routing Protocol overload (added by Alex Zinin)
(discussed)
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